Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

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Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:58 pm

Ready for a new project? Well, I am :D ! From good old Germany to the New World. Amazing that the following car was started to be built only a year after the Mercedes Spezial Roadster I've just finished, isn't it? Howard Darrin, flamboyant designer with Parisian attitude (although US born) made some gorgeous cars in Paris (Delage, Rolls Royce, Hispano etc.), but when business went low in the 1930s, he accepted an invitation from Hollywood and started to present his cars to stars & starlets - successfully! One of his most famous cars was the Packard One-Eighty, mainly built as convertible Victoria, but also available as four-door convertible, four-door saloon and - presumably a one-off - as a so-called Coupé Parisienne, which unfortunately has not survived.

The Convertible:

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In a vintage advertising:

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The stunning Coupé Parisienne:

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Some time ago I bought these two models from Western Models, both in poor condition (and have paid much too much for them, as I was young and unexperienced... :oops: ). Here are the "remainings" of what should become two attractive model cars:

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One of them missing the radiator grille :evil: :

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The same cars from the outside, but some differences in the single parts:

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Bath in acetone:

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Chassis parts cleaned & filed:

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Lots of parts:

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Different wheels:

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...made up:

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Nice dashboards...

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...but not nice enough for me:

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The thin rods are straight...

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...but have to be bent in the center:

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Post by Tom » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:22 pm

Beautiful car! I looked at the missing radiator grill and thought 'it wouldn't have been good enough anyway, I bet it will look a lot better when he's done'. Another project I will follow closely.

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Post by LUW » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:48 pm

I still think you should just start with a brick of zamac and go from there... You don't leave anything alone anyway :?
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Post by thetrooper » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:54 pm

Another double project to follow :)
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Post by Jager » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:50 pm

Tom wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:22 pm
I looked at the missing radiator grill and thought 'it wouldn't have been good enough anyway, I bet it will look a lot better when he's done'. Another project I will follow closely.
My thoughts exactly.
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Post by Jean B. » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:08 pm

Tom wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:22 pm
Beautiful car! I looked at the missing radiator grill and thought 'it wouldn't have been good enough anyway, I bet it will look a lot better when he's done'. Another project I will follow closely.
Jager wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:50 pm
My thoughts exactly.
Honestly, I already made a silicon mould to simply cast the grille for the second car :oops: , but when I read your comments, I fear you're absolutely right... :roll: So I'll make a fully new radiator grille, thanks guys! ;)
LUW wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:48 pm
I still think you should just start with a brick of zamac and go from there... You don't leave anything alone anyway :?
Of course I'm dreaming of building a complete model by scratch, but I fear this will take much more experience than I have today... :( So please give me some further years to try... :)
thetrooper wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:54 pm
Another double project to follow :)
Feel invited :P !

A little bit tricky: The headlights sit with a long rod in the body, so I glued them to this, and drilled the parts out...

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...until the front rings flipped off and the headlights could be drilled out and polished:

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Beltline and louvers are a little bit too clumsy...

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... and simply flexed off:

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The same for the licence plates:

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The outer edges of the bench leave a gap to the wheel covers...

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...but not for long:

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Post by Jager » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:34 pm

Nothing less than we've come to expect from you now Jean :D .
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Post by BertOne » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:15 am

Great projects. I'm particularly looking forward to the coupe; any idea of the original colour?

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Post by Jean B. » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:11 pm

Jager wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:34 pm
Nothing less than we've come to expect from you now Jean :D .
Victim of my own requirements, as it seems... :)
BertOne wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:15 am
Great projects. I'm particularly looking forward to the coupe; any idea of the original colour?
Not yet, but I could imagine that it was simply black, considering the attribute "Coupé Parisienne" (referring the the modern fashions of that time by Chanel & others). Together with red accents for the wheels it could look quite elegant, I think...

Today I've already designed some first p/e parts, especially as I urgently need the profile thread for the tire:

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Post by gilma » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:05 am

Great to see another project (s) - you have indulged us to expect two models now for every project :D

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Post by Tom » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:22 am

You're off to a great start!

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Post by Jean B. » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:40 pm

gilma wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:05 am
Great to see another project (s) - you have indulged us to expect two models now for every project :D
Well, I guess I have to disappoint you - the next project will have three of a kind... :D
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Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:22 am
You're off to a great start!
At least it's lot of fun :P

Photo-etching was very fine :P :

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Gaps for the bumpers are closed:

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The front fenders needed a kind of "punch" at the rear end towards the front end, perhaps you can recognize (above old, below newly made):

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Making a template for the doors with the help of an exactly scaled photo print:

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The dramatic proportions of the Coupé Parisienne result from the fact that the doors resp. the passenger shell is moved backwards by approximately 12 cm:

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This requires an extended hood:

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Quite good for the first try:

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For comparison:

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Headlight lenses, licence plates and profile thread for the tire casted in resine:

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Post by Tom » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:09 pm

I love to see your methods evolve and the build process get more complex and sophisticated with every build.

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Post by Jean B. » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:57 pm

Tom wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:09 pm
I love to see your methods evolve and the build process get more complex and sophisticated with every build.
Nice to hear, thank you! I think the most daring of this build will be making the hard-top for the Coupé :o At the moment I don't have any idea how to make this... So feel invited to a walk into a dark forest... :D

Hard works today! First the interior door panels were removed as they would have been very difficult to enhance. Sometimes it's better to make a deep cut and to start from the ground...:

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With the help of a polysterene dummy and putty a completely flat base has been made for mounting the p/e panels:

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Shaped & cleaned:

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The coupé has no marker lights on the front wings:

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Post by Tom » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:05 pm

Would it be a good start to shape the roof in modeling clay and then replicate the outer skin of the clay in metal? I know there is a special kind of metal plate which you can hold over a flame to make it malleable and easy to push into shape over an existing mould.

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Post by Jean B. » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:27 pm

Tom wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:05 pm
Would it be a good start to shape the roof in modeling clay and then replicate the outer skin of the clay in metal? I know there is a special kind of metal plate which you can hold over a flame to make it malleable and easy to push into shape over an existing mould.
Thanks for the hint! I already thought of doing that like real model builders would do, that means with brass sheet. Your idea led me to another way, at least for a first trying: In the scrapbox I found rolled lead, normally used for roof fittings. Actually it's a little bit too soft, but for experimenting I guess it will do... :) I'll keep you informed!

Today I've mainly repeated the steps of yesterday for the Convertible Victoria:

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Furthermore I began adjusting the axles, pictures will follow tomorrow!

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Post by Tom » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:40 pm

You could also take a mould from the clay shape and cast a thin roof.

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Post by Jean B. » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:30 pm

Tom wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:40 pm
You could also take a mould from the clay shape and cast a thin roof.
This method is - unfortunately - not that easy! A shape like a roof is "large & thin". For such a shape you need very much pressure, as the molten white-metal is tough rather than liquid and it doesn't "like" to go into thin spaces. I'll try it, but you have to consider that those parts are usually made with pressure or centrifugal working machines... :|

The brass tubes for the axles:

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...together with the chassis:

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First test - working!:

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A pair of arm rests for the fond bench:

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And the resin-casted profile thread glued onto the tire master:

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Post by Tom » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:50 pm

You're moving quickly! I like the clean and simple shape of the car with all the bits taken off.

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Post by Jean B. » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:42 pm

Tom wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:50 pm
You're moving quickly! I like the clean and simple shape of the car with all the bits taken off.
Looks a little bit like an old Dinky toy :) . Perhaps I also should make a "workshop" diorama with some unpainted cars :D

You won't believe it, but it took two days to get the two cars standing "straight & upright" on their wheels! They had both the same bodywork, but the chassis parts had different wheelbases :evil: , and furthermore those old white-metals are wiggling in any direction, so it's a fiddling work to make the cars standing and rolling solid with correct wheelbase and track...

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Post by Tom » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:03 pm

I know from experience how hard it can be... that's why none of my handbuilt kits roll. I just fixed the axles in the best position I could find, so that as many wheels as possible touch the surface.

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Post by Jager » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:03 pm

Don't worry Jean. Three quarters of my Sparks only have 3 wheels that touch the ground :D .
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Post by Jean B. » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:50 pm

Tom wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:03 pm
I know from experience how hard it can be... that's why none of my handbuilt kits roll. I just fixed the axles in the best position I could find, so that as many wheels as possible touch the surface.
Very wise decision! So you're following model-building god Gerald Wingrove: he also mentioned in his books that he always fixes the axles because model cars are models, and no toys :) But you know, I grew up with Matchbox, I cannot sleep thinking of a model which cannot roll... :roll:
Jager wrote:
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Don't worry Jean. Three quarters of my Sparks only have 3 wheels that touch the ground :D .
Well, I guess most of your cars are racing cars, so they can be photographed "in action". Perhaps this is the intention of Spark :lol:

Today: I noticed a horizontal cut-out below the trunk and promptly made it (left):

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And now for something completely different! Still not knowing how to make the roof, I need a shape or template, anyway. So give me some wood and a saw:

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A first, quick template for the windshield:

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Post by Tom » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:55 pm

Wow, the wood carving turned out very nicely! I bet it took a lot of work to get the shape correct...

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