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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:22 am
by gilma
The colors look great, and choosing two tones for the interior looks better 8-)
The wheels look wonderful, and like everyone I loved that swan....

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:45 pm
by Jean B.
gilma wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:22 am
The colors look great, and choosing two tones for the interior looks better 8-)
The wheels look wonderful, and like everyone I loved that swan....
Thank you! The darker floor brings more depth to the interior, I think, and I wouldn't have thought that the swan would cause such a sympathy... :D

Small steps for today: Louvers for the Convertible:

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...and seams dividing the body from the fenders. Actually all classic cars have such, and this time I tried to do it on a model with 0.1mm wire which was painted matte black:

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:33 pm
by LUW
You glue the wire where the panel gap should be? Interesting.
Looks good from here.

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:53 pm
by Tom
Looks very good, I'd say.
Older cars used to have a rubber, or even leather bead in between panels. This replicates it perfectly.

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:32 pm
by Jager
Interesting touch Jean. Are you going to glue the black wire on the black Coupé Parisienne too !

To be honest, I don't think I'd bother with the wire unless your also going to blackwash the panel gaps for the doors, boot lid etc as well. These are more substantial gaps and will have much more of an impact than replicating the seals between the fenders.

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:46 pm
by Jean B.
LUW wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:33 pm
You glue the wire where the panel gap should be? Interesting.Looks good from here.
The wire is tightened between the two endings at the bottom edge, this way there's no need to glue.
Tom wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:53 pm
Looks very good, I'd say. Older cars used to have a rubber, or even leather bead in between panels. This replicates it perfectly.
Thanks! It's just an idea, and 0.1mm would be 4.3mm in real scale, any other wire would be much too thick.
Jager wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:32 pm
Interesting touch Jean. Are you going to glue the black wire on the black Coupé Parisienne too !

To be honest, I don't think I'd bother with the wire unless your also going to blackwash the panel gaps for the doors, boot lid etc as well. These are more substantial gaps and will have much more of an impact than replicating the seals between the fenders.
It's already done with the Coupé - I tried it there first because it's hardly to be seen - black on black... And I've got that already in mind, the thing with the black-washed gaps. The difficulty is that the gaps scribed into white metal are too wide to do this. For blackwashing the gaps should be very sharp and very thin, that's why I haven't done this by now with my models. But I'll take this as suggestion for the next model, perhaps I'll get it done somewhen... ;)

Today only the bonnet handles, door hinges and chrome strips on the marker lights and top door edges are made:

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:12 pm
by Jean B.
Don't worry, I'm still alive - and working... :) Christmas is coming, and I'm already busy with lots of preparations, and contrary to my model cars, Santa won't wait ;) At least I've made the next layouts for p/e parts, this bothers me for quite a while by now, as I urgently need dashboard and steering wheel to go ahead. Furthermore I am building another car for a customer, and to combine all activities, I also designed some small parts (like wipers and mascots) for trying to offer them on ebay. Tomorrow I should have time enough to p/e, and I hope that some more interesting steps will follow by the weekend.

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:20 pm
by Jean B.
Etching was made successfully :P :

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Pre-assembled steering wheel:

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And the gauges:

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:41 pm
by Tom
I was looking at all the bits that make the steering wheel... wow, complicated piece!

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:28 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:41 pm
I was looking at all the bits that make the steering wheel... wow, complicated piece!
Well, ten pieces just for the steering wheel, plus gear lever and column :) And here you can see the painted wheel:

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The real pieces were made of a kind of tortoiseshell (at leats it looks like), so I mixed glass paint in white, yellow and brown to get the appropriate look.

Door panels with details:

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...and built in:

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:30 pm
by Tom
Looks fantastic!

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:26 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:30 pm
Looks fantastic!
Thanks, nice to hear! The steering wheel has a quite interesting shape, the two horizontal spokes are not straight, but form a kind of half circle. It was complicated to make the graphic that way and to have in mind that the three spokes have to be bent for giving the wheel two levels. Well, seems that I've got it anyhow :) :

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(A small center ornament still missing...)

The first assembled dashboard:

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:40 pm
by Tom
Wow. A true work of art in the making, impressive attention to details!

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:03 pm
by LUW
Unbelievable :o! That's museum-grade work.

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:57 am
by gilma
Beautiful beautiful details - the steering wheels and the dash, the door panels (and so small...I don't know how you handle that), fantastic :)
Which glue do you use Jean, for all the parts?

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:17 pm
by thetrooper
Did you notice the scratch on the back of the yellow one??
































Nah only joking it looks fine :lol:

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:11 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:40 pm
Wow. A true work of art in the making, impressive attention to details!
Thank you! You simply have to do some research on the www to find high-res photos of the cars! This time it needed some time to find out that the speedometer has 14 holes, the watch - of course :lol: - only twelve.
LUW wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:03 pm
Unbelievable :o! That's museum-grade work.
Thanks! But really, I think it's only the result of some diligence. I'm still waiting for becoming a real artist (for some decades now... :) )
gilma wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:57 am
Beautiful beautiful details - the steering wheels and the dash, the door panels (and so small...I don't know how you handle that), fantastic :) Which glue do you use Jean, for all the parts?
Thanks a lot! How to handle? Don't know, mostly after hearing :lol: - And as for the glue: I always use UHU "schnellfest" (quick hard). It's a 2-component glue which is liquid about 5 minutes and gets hard after 20 minutes. This allows relaxed but rapid working, especially for tiny parts which don't "stand" and which you have to hold while fixing. And - the great advantage: this glue stays crystal clear, like clear resin, so yo can use it for headlights, also. And still one more: When spreading some glue on the painting, you can remove it after 60 minutes with a toothpick (carefully) without harming the paint (even metallic!) in any way. It's magic! :P

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thetrooper wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:17 pm
Did you notice the scratch on the back of the yellow one?? Nah only joking it looks fine :lol:
Your photo cannot be seen... :?: I guess that's why I haven't suffered a heart attack :o :lol:

Only one small step for today, dashboard at it's place:

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:27 pm
by Jean B.
Chassis, body and interior are put together, steering wheel in position:

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:38 pm
by Tom
Fab interior. High class modeling.

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:48 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:38 pm
Fab interior. High class modeling.
Nice to hear, thanks! I'm always astonished what a big difference some p/e parts make. And I have to admit, I'm also quite proud about my method of making dashboards :oops: . I don't know if there's a better way, but I'm always a little bit disappointed about the dashboards which are made by all the high-class resin models by Chromes, Ilario & co. And that though it's really not so difficult to do it my way... :)

Christmas time requires almost all my energy, and there are only minutes per day left for model building... :( Perhaps I won't do any more before Santa is coming, so I tried to achieve an intermediate result showing how everything turns out:

Chrome and black BMF were cut out with a template and sticked onto the body, the p/e grilles bent into shape:

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...and applied with some glue:

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A self-made trunk handle:

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The bonnet center line:

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And - last but not least - the car on its wheels :P :

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:00 pm
by LUW
Awesome.

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:41 pm
by Tom
Amazing!

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:29 pm
by gilma
Beautiful color combination - The green with the few shades of yellow, red and the top, fantastic 8-)

Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:18 pm
by Jager
gilma wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:29 pm
Beautiful color combination - The green with the few shades of yellow, red and the top, fantastic 8-)
I wasn't really expecting to like this colour combination, but I agree with Gilma that its all come together very well.