Porsche 934/935 in 1/43

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Re: Porsche 934/935 in 1/43

Post by philsaunders » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:27 pm

Great history, Ian! Thanks so much for the info! That clears up quite a bit.
splonker wrote:The slope nose was the first 935/76 to race, at Mugello in March 1976.
On racingsportscars.com Mugello is missing from their galleries for 1976 so I always assumed that it was after Vallelunga. I was under the misapprehension that the evolution went from the traditional 911 nose to the slope nose over the course of development at successive races. Now I understand the pics from Silverstone and Le Mans that show the 935 with both the 911 and slope noses.
splonker wrote:Kremer had also reverted to this look, for Vallelunga in April and Silverstone in May and it looked the car in the top left of the above poster.
Are you referring to the Jägermeister car or the one just below it? I assumed the Jäger car to be a Max Moritz RSR since they had the sponsorship through at least '78.
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Post by guitardave_1 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:35 am

Great post Ian. As Phil says, so much more makes sense and slots into the existing info that had been shared elsewhere.
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Re: Porsche 934/935 in 1/43

Post by splonker » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:53 am

philsaunders wrote:Great history, Ian! Thanks so much for the info! That clears up quite a bit.
splonker wrote:The slope nose was the first 935/76 to race, at Mugello in March 1976.
On racingsportscars.com Mugello is missing from their galleries for 1976 so I always assumed that it was after Vallelunga. I was under the misapprehension that the evolution went from the traditional 911 nose to the slope nose over the course of development at successive races. Now I understand the pics from Silverstone and Le Mans that show the 935 with both the 911 and slope noses.
splonker wrote:Kremer had also reverted to this look, for Vallelunga in April and Silverstone in May and it looked the car in the top left of the above poster.
Are you referring to the Jägermeister car or the one just below it? I assumed the Jäger car to be a Max Moritz RSR since they had the sponsorship through at least '78.
Phil & Dave, no problems hope it helped. Phil, yes I mean the Jager car. The car below looks like a K1 in original form but I do not know from which race.

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Post by JSB33 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:59 am

Fantastic info there.

Would anyone mind if i moved this to Model reference?
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Post by Nardu » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:56 pm

Thanks all for an excellent thread.... too bad it means that theres ANOTHER Martini 935 out there :lol:

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Post by splonker » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:21 pm

JSB33 wrote:Fantastic info there.

Would anyone mind if i moved this to Model reference?
No problems with me. Does anyone want the K3, 935/78, K4 etc as well?

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Post by Nardu » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:51 pm

splonker wrote:
JSB33 wrote:Fantastic info there.

Would anyone mind if i moved this to Model reference?
No problems with me. Does anyone want the K3, 935/78, K4 etc as well?

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Pretty sure most would want to hear all of it :)

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Post by philsaunders » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:38 pm

Count me in!
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Post by JSB33 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:21 pm

I am always happy to learn something.
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Post by splonker » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:41 pm

More of my ramblings on the subject.....

The Porsche customer cars for 1978 where little different from the 935/77A but the works 935/78 was a totally way out new car with a space framed front and rear, glass fibre floor which made the car 80mm lower with a reduced roof height of 75mm.
It won at Silverstone, retired at Vallelunga and the Norsring and was retired after Le Mans where it finished 8th but was timed down the Mulsanne at 227mph - a full 5mph faster then the prototypes. This car was known as Moby Dick.
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All other 935/78 were built by Joest for IMSA racing in and are also known as 935/78-81 or 935/81.

For 1979 there was no factory cars but IMSA had decreed that all twin turbo cars would carry 40Kg of ballast. Porsche developed a slightly larger engine with a single turbo known as 935/79. The Interscope team won at Daytona.
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Kremer had upadated the K2 in 1978 but for 1979 bought out the K3 with 100 changes, including an air to air intercooler, moved oil cooler and fuel tank, bodywork weighing 30Kg and a roll cage that also acted as the front suspension pick up points. It was 1% more efficient, easier to maintain and run. Two versions wer available, large engine single turbo for IMSA and smaller engine twin turbo for Gp5. A Gp5 K3 won Le Mans in 1979.
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Some were still running at Le Mans in 1982 in the IMSA class with revised bodywork.
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The cars that Kremer supplied in 1980 were known as 935K3/80 and are sometimes confused with the 935/80 which they are not. Also kits and parts could be supplied to customers to convert to K3 standard. The 935/80, more commonly called the 935B2, was built by Porsche for Georg Loos and was based on the 935/77 with lightweight body and upgraded suspension.
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For 1980 Joest had buillt his own version also based around the 935/77 and this was know as the 935J. One won at Daytona that year. He also supplied other teams including Vegla who ran a car at Le Mans in 1981 finishing 10th. This car is sometimes called a K2 but I do not know why because it isn't.
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Re: Porsche 934/935 in 1/43

Post by grinbergs » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:47 pm

Great thread, the 935 must be one of the race cars with the most distinct personality - instantly recognizeble. Like Dave and others I have preferred the pre-slant-nose porsches but I have to say it is growing on me... :)

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Post by Nardu » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:49 pm

Thanks Ian, great posts :) Really like that BP revised bodywork one

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Post by Nardu » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:21 pm

Didn't know where to put these comparo pics and group shot, but this seemed to be the best place.

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935/77 and 935 baby. Both by spark, immensely similar, but really not identical. Maybe the pictures don't really show the differences though.

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Post by dannyboy » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:13 pm

Nice with the comparison-pics!
Yes, the 935/77 and Baby are two different-bodied cars, even though they are very similar.
Great thread, btw. :)
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Post by danny » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:14 pm

On the german forum is a member who listed (allmost) all the porsche 935 ever made in 1:43 . This list is online here
http://www.miniauto.net/wp-content/uplo ... er-935.pdf

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Post by JSB33 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:38 am

One hell of a list and would make for a hell of a collection.
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Post by Tom » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:37 am

Love this thread! I could easily be persuaded to add a 934/935 sub-theme to my collection. However, I fear that this will get expensive really quickly... :?

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Post by Jager » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:43 pm

I found this group shot on the internet while researching one of my cars and thought it was worth posting here :

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Post by philsaunders » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:59 pm

Very nice grouping!
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Post by JSB33 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:50 am

Great picture.
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Re: Porsche 934/935 in 1/43

Post by danny » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:37 pm

3 for me to , but the ones i don`t have :D

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Post by Jager » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:05 pm

8 for me.....with my finger poised over the 'Buy-it-Now' button for another.
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Post by Jager » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:33 am

I posted this in the Group Shot thread, but thought it was also worth posting here :

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Re: Porsche 934/935 in 1/43

Post by Tom » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:46 am

Incredibly impressive. Not to mention tempting.

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