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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by LUW » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:56 pm

LM24HRS wrote:Lots of good solid info and people battling with their wallets ;).
A "battle" is when two sides collide with good chances of both coming out the victor. Over here it's always a massacre - of my poor wallet.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Jager » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:00 pm

Based on past discussions on the forum, it seems the Opel Blitz (which I also have) is wrong. Porsche did have an Opel Blitz in the 1960's, but it was a long wheel base version in a brighter red.

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Premium Classixxs appear to have modelled theirs of a modern reproduction which is based on an old post office van (hence the sliding drivers door rather than a hinged door):

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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Stu935 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:22 am

A quick question about race car transporters :) .
Does anyone know what transporter/transporters would have been used to move the three 1968 Le Mans Gulf Ford GT40s, and is there a moidel available in 1:43?

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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by LUW » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:27 am

I think I stumbled upon a pic of GT40s in Gulf colors on a truck, but no idea what year or more importantly, where I saw it :oops:.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:42 am

Another MB transporter livery

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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:05 am

Stu935 wrote:A quick question about race car transporters :) .
Does anyone know what transporter/transporters would have been used to move the three 1968 Le Mans Gulf Ford GT40s, and is there a moidel available in 1:43?
You get to see the rear of it in this film and also a lwb Transit van in JW livery .

http://sleepyjones.com/1968-le-mans-film/


Not sure if this is combination is corrector fantasy , but the rear of the transporter does look like the one in the film.

http://www.1-87vehicles.org/photo609/fo ... 0_gulf.php
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Jager » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:26 am

Stu935 wrote:A quick question about race car transporters :) .
Does anyone know what transporter/transporters would have been used to move the three 1968 Le Mans Gulf Ford GT40s, and is there a model available in 1:43?
My understanding is John Wyer's Gulf team used an AEC Regal V1 Transporter. The picture below is from the 1969 :

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Spark did a slightly later version (1973 ?) of this transporter :

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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by LUW » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:27 am

Found it!
This is what I saw:
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From Exoto:
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Post by LUW » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:30 am

And from Ian's post:
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by danny » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:35 pm

Galaxy Gaz wrote:Another MB transporter livery

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never seen that one before

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Post by Serafa » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:21 pm

Me neither, it looks like an O307.
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Post by LUW » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:34 pm

Don't forget Porsche got only the chassis, and then had the whole "bus" built to spec.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Jager » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:34 pm

LUW wrote:Found it!
This is what I saw:
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From Exoto:
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Unfortunately that's more fantasy from Exoto. Most of the 1966 GT40's, including the 3 podium cars shown by Exoto were transported to Le Mans in a convoy of trailers towed by Ford Transit vans.

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Only the #7 & #8 cars arrived on the Bartoletti transporter (the 3rd white car was a spare that never raced).

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A few of us here have this set wth the IXO GT40's ;

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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Jager » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:42 pm

danny wrote:
Galaxy Gaz wrote:Another MB transporter livery

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never seen that one before
Serafa wrote:Me neither, it looks like an O307.
LUW wrote:Don't forget Porsche got only the chassis, and then had the whole "bus" built to spec.
I've seen that particular picture before, but I've never seen any period pictures of it at a race track or any racing references to this truck. I have a feeling it was built by a wealthy collector to carry a historic Porsche racer.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by LUW » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:01 pm

Jager wrote:Unfortunately that's more fantasy from Exoto. Most of the 1966 GT40's, including the 3 podium cars shown by Exoto were transported to Le Mans in a convoy of trailers towed by Ford Transit vans.
Even though like everybody else I also like to bash Exoto, from what I could gather the transporter did exist and did carry GT-40s, just not those ones in particular. Jeff made a VERY thorough thread about this one a few years ago here at S143.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Jager » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:24 pm

LUW wrote:
Jager wrote:Unfortunately that's more fantasy from Exoto. Most of the 1966 GT40's, including the 3 podium cars shown by Exoto were transported to Le Mans in a convoy of trailers towed by Ford Transit vans.
Even though like everybody else I also like to bash Exoto, from what I could gather the transporter did exist and did carry GT-40s, just not those ones in particular. Jeff made a VERY thorough thread about this one a few years ago here at S143.
Yes, that's what I said. The transporter carried the Alan Mann #7 & #8 GT40's, just not the 1st, 2nd & 3rd placed GT40's as shown in Exoto's picture.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by LUW » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:14 am

Sometimes I think Exoto is like a stray dog: they always end up pooping on the porch, sooner or later :lol:.
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Post by JSB33 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:49 am

LUW wrote:Sometimes I think Exoto is like a stray dog: they always end up pooping on the porch, sooner or later :lol:.
They did such a nice job on the transporter that i guess their questionable marketing in this case can be overlooked. As I mentioned elsewhere Alan Mann did haul Cobras and Daytona coupes with the same truck.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by LUW » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:09 am

Interestingly, it would be so easy to make a good marketing campaign without arousing the wrath of hardcore collectors. I don't know if it's because they lack a competent research team, their marketing guys are NOT car guys or collectors or if they just don't give a fart since they assume whatever they put out will sell :roll:.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Jager » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:01 pm

Here's an interesting picture I hadn't seen before....The Porsche Martini transporter and van with the Jagermeister 917/20 which would make it 1973.

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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by LUW » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:15 pm

Ian, was there a 917/20 that was NOT the Pink Pig?
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Post by Galaxy Gaz » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:30 pm

LUW wrote:Ian, was there a 917/20 that was NOT the Pink Pig?
C`mon Luc , you should know that before you ask.
There was only one 917/20 and it only raced once with the Martini team , at Le Mans in 1971 in the "Pink pig" colours wearing the #21.
It also appeared at the Le Mans test weekend in its original all white livery wearing the #20 .


Are you thinking that the 917/10`s that were run with the 917/30 front bodywork were also classed as 917/20`s ?
Minichamps made a 1/18 version of the Jagermeister car raced by Vic Elford which they sold as a 917/20 , but that car was the original 917/30 prototype with adjustable wheelbase ,which was used to develop the 917/30 for Donohue . When it was in Jager colours it had been returned to its original 917/10 wheelbase but they left the 917/30 front bodywork on it
After it was used by Vic Elford at the Hockenheim round of the Interseries it was returned to Porsche , but then did campaign the full 1974 series in Martini livery. It is chassis number 917/30-001 and is now in the Porsche museum.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by LUW » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:44 pm

That's what I thought, but it's a fact that I have been wrong in the past, so... :roll:
It looks like the 917/30.
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Re: Porsche (MB) Transporter

Post by Jager » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:33 pm

Galaxy Gaz wrote:
LUW wrote:Ian, was there a 917/20 that was NOT the Pink Pig?
C`mon Luc , you should know that before you ask.
There was only one 917/20 and it only raced once with the Martini team , at Le Mans in 1971 in the "Pink pig" colours wearing the #21.
It also appeared at the Le Mans test weekend in its original all white livery wearing the #20 .


Are you thinking that the 917/10`s that were run with the 917/30 front bodywork were also classed as 917/20`s ?
Minichamps made a 1/18 version of the Jagermeister car raced by Vic Elford which they sold as a 917/20 , but that car was the original 917/30 prototype with adjustable wheelbase ,which was used to develop the 917/30 for Donohue . When it was in Jager colours it had been returned to its original 917/10 wheelbase but they left the 917/30 front bodywork on it
After it was used by Vic Elford at the Hockenheim round of the Interseries it was returned to Porsche , but then did campaign the full 1974 series in Martini livery. It is chassis number 917/30-001 and is now in the Porsche museum.
Sorry for the confusions guys.....Yes, I was referring to the 917/30, but inadvertently wrote 917/20 because that's what Minichamps described it as :oops: . Gary, Minichamps also did a very limited run of these in 1:43.....just 380 pieces. I guess it won't worry you too much because your not a fan of the Jager colours anyway ;) .

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