REAL race transporters available in 1:43

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by JSB33 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:56 am

An exclusive transporter and race support collection would be very interesting indeed.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Tom » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:55 am

Or a collection consisting of nothing but pit scenes- racers, support vehicles and crew. Cool.

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Stu935 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:37 am

this thread has been quite an eye opener, I didn't realise there were so many race transporters available.

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:50 am

Tom wrote:Or a collection consisting of nothing but pit scenes- racers, support vehicles and crew. Cool.
What about this one Tom :

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Stu935 wrote:this thread has been quite an eye opener, I didn't realise there were so many race transporters available.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:07 am

Gila models in Italy produce some very impressive models. This is one of my favorites....the 1953 Alfa Romeo transporter. Spark have also announced the 1953 Le Mans 6C 3000's that would fill it up nicely.

Brand: Gila Models (#4)
Team/Factory: Alfa Corse
Transporter: Alfa Romeo 900 Bartoletti
Years(s): 1953

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LUW » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:31 am

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Just imagine how much it cost to make that scene :shock:.
Any other shots from that diorama?
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Stu935 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:13 pm

wow that diorama is impressive, any idea how long it took to put together?

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Tom » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:55 pm

That is indeed a fantastic diorama.

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LM24HRS » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:33 pm

Jager wrote:Gila models in Italy produce some very impressive models. This is one of my favorites....the 1953 Alfa Romeo transporter. Spark have also announced the 1953 Le Mans 6C 3000's that would fill it up nicely.

Brand: Gila Models (#4)
Team/Factory: Alfa Corse
Transporter: Alfa Romeo 900 Bartoletti
Years(s): 1953
Two minds think alike on this one Ian ;) Every time I go to Retromobile I see this transporter and think one day I'm going to buy that. I think the day I do is getting closer especially when Spark do release those 6C 3000's................the temptation will be to great. Needs must.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:07 pm

LUW wrote:Just imagine how much it cost to make that scene :shock:.
Any other shots from that diorama?
The diorama was constructed by professional diorama builders Chrono43 for Retromobile. They do one every year.

There are more pictures in this thread :

http://scale143.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3980
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:13 am

The Ford Transit was a popular choice for racing teams in the late 1960's and early 1970's. Spark have produced several versions, with more planned.

Brand: Sparks (S0276)
Team/Factory: Elf Team Tyrrell
Transporter: Ford Transit
Years(s): 1971 - 1974 ?

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Brand: Sparks (SO294)
Team/Factory: Penthouse Racing
Transporter: Ford Transit
Years(s): 1975

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Brand: Spark (S0292)
Team/Factory: Ford Motorsport
Transporter: Ford Transit
Years(s): 1979

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Brand: Spark (SB005)
Team/Factory: JC Motorsport / Ford
Transporter: Ford Transit
Years(s): 1979

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Brand: Spark (S0273 - Announced but not yet released)
Team/Factory: John Wyer Automotive Engineering Ltd
Transporter: Ford Transit
Years(s): 1971 - 1975 ?

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IXO also wanted to get in on the Ford Transit act, and announced this Porsche van, but its production has since been discontinued ?

Brand: IXO (CLC285)
Team/Factory: Porsche System Engineering
Transporter: Ford Transit
Years(s): 1968 - 1971 ?

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Tom » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:36 am

Rio did a few Fiat 238s, but I suspect that most, if not all, are fantasy... quite nice though.

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There's also a Fiat version. The 238 was the quintessential Italian van in the late '60s-early '70s, so theoretically they could be real cars.

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Serafa » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:58 am

Jager wrote:Brand: Sparks (SO294)
Team/Factory: Penthouse Racing
Transporter: Ford Transit
Years(s): 1975

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I'm not sure why Spark mentions on the base that it is from 1975, but the Penthouse RAM team actually raced in 1980 with this livery.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:45 pm

Bruno, this might help.
It started in 1975, when Penthouse sponsored a pair of factory-backed BMW R90S motorcycles for London’s Gus Kuhn, a Formula Atlantic Lola, Formula 5000 Alfa Romeos, and the new Ford Escort Championship
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Serafa » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:49 pm

I see it now. I was thinking about Formula 1.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:02 pm

Thanks Tom. The Lancia Marlboro Italia version is real, I'm not sure about the other versions. There are several more accurate versions produced by Rio, so hopefully they aren't fantasy models.

This one is real....I have pictures of it in the paddock at Le Mans in 1965 :

Brand: Rio (4339)
Team/Factory: Scuderia Ferrari
Transporter: Fiat 238
Years(s): 1965

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This version is also real. The original was offered for sale several years ago:

Brand: Rio (4242)
Team/Factory: Garage Francorchamps / Ferrari
Transporter: Fiat 238
Years(s): 1973 - 1976 ?

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This one also exists and was offered for sale recently :

Brand: Rio (4454)
Team/Factory: Lancia Corse
Transporter: Fiat 238
Years(s): ?

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Another accurate Ferrari van is this VW T1 from Schuco. I've seen pictures of it, but just not in a racing setting :

Brand: Schuco (450369800)
Team/Factory: Garage Francorchamps / Ferrari
Transporter: VW T1c
Years(s): ?

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:22 pm

Tron have done a few Ferrari transporters (sold as kits and finished models), but expect to pay Euro 450 for the finished models. Maybe one day Spark will produce some of these at affordable prices :

Brand: Tron (P305M)
Team/Factory: Scuderia Ferrari
Transporter: Alfa Romeo 800
Years(s): 1950

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Brand: Tron (P324M)
Team/Factory: Scuderia Ferrari
Transporter: Alfa Romeo 800
Years(s): 1951

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Brand: Tron (CPS02)
Team/Factory: Abarth
Transporter: Fiat OM
Years(s): 1966

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Brand: Tron (P295M)
Team/Factory: Scuderia Ferrari
Transporter: Fiat OM150
Years(s): 1968

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Brand: Tron (P321)
Team/Factory: Ch. Pozzi / Ferrari
Transporter: Iveco Fiat OM55
Years(s): 1978

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LUW » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:57 pm

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What transporter? I see no transporter.
Is this a trick question?
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LUW » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:50 am

Can anyone please measure the MAN 635 Porsche transporter? I need to know how long it actually is.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Tom » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:58 am

22 cm and a bit. Close enough?

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LUW » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:21 pm

Perfect, thanks!
So it will fit. Ok, that means the display is a none issue. Now I just have to buy the sucker. And the cargo.
And the hole gets deeper.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Tom » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:25 pm

What will you fill yours with? I'm looking at a couple of Spark 904s... will cost more than the model itself (even though mine was acquired in a trade and the 'load' will likely come from the same source).

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LUW » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:24 pm

I think I'm leaning towrds the 1967 squadra: 910K, 906K and 907LH. I never had anything like them in 1:18 and they seem to be easier to come by.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:36 pm

Tom wrote:What will you fill yours with? I'm looking at a couple of Spark 904s... will cost more than the model itself (even though mine was acquired in a trade and the 'load' will likely come from the same source).
Don't forget the Vitesse Porsche 904's which are typically cheaper. While not as sharp as the Spark, if they are displayed in/on the transporter you won't see the detail that closely. I'm thinking of using a mixture so i can have one car (the Vitesse) without its engine cover.
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