Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by LM24HRS » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:57 pm

This is just perfection, what engineering. Enjoying it so far Jean. The end result/s are going to a pleasure to the eyes I'm sure.
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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Jager » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:16 pm

An amazing amount of work to get the proportions 'just right'. Congratulations on the the result so far.
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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Jean B. » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:55 am

Tom wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:29 pm
As usual, very creative use of technology and materials to achieve a perfect result.
Well, all the stuff which can be found in a cellar... :D And if the result won't be perfect, let's hope that it will at least be quite nice :)
LUW wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:47 pm
As expected, things are coming out great.
I still cannot believe that there is really only one single photo of the original car! This C27 was spectacular when it debuted in 1934, and the Voisin Classic website says that the car was in use until 1951 - o.k., they had no mobile phone cams, but anyone should have taken a couple of photos of this extraordinary car... :roll:
LM24HRS wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:57 pm
This is just perfection, what engineering. Enjoying it so far Jean. The end result/s are going to a pleasure to the eyes I'm sure.
Thanks for your encouragement! This will help me through the hard times of this build... :)
Jager wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:16 pm
An amazing amount of work to get the proportions 'just right'. Congratulations on the the result so far.
Thank you! I wish the master-maker of those models would have done this job before... :roll:

It took almost all day long to scribe the door gaps into the body, terrible work! The diecast is extremely hard and slippery, you hardly can go with anything into the material, even a steel needle fails... Furthermore the top edge is only very narrow and goes over in putty, so there's no "flesh" to work with. However, I've made it anyhow, and here's the result:

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And as a kind of recompensation, I took a piece of scrap metal and made a first test for making the sliding roof:

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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by LUW » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:07 pm

That will look great!
And about the photos of the real thing, more than likely there are photos of the car, but probably not labed correctly, so who ever has them don't know what they have.
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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Jean B. » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:42 pm

LUW wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:07 pm
That will look great! And about the photos of the real thing, more than likely there are photos of the car, but probably not labed correctly, so who ever has them don't know what they have.
Well, I already searched after all possible descriptions, like "C27", "Voisin Ski" (the first idea for a name for the Coupé), "Voisin Coupé", "André Noel" (the designer)... without any success :( Thus I will have to be creative and imagine how all the details should look like... :)

What's new? To avoid gaps between the the wheel houses of upper and lower halves I filled them up with putty:

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The original interior shell has a funny kind of "trunk" behind the seats, this looks rather weird and so I'll make a completely new floor with some space for luggage:

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The seats are a sort of Siamese twins, first I filled the bottom side with putty:

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Smoothened that and divided the seats:

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And now we have nice and tiny single seats:

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A wheel master is made with slightly differring sides front...

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... and reverse side, this allows to choose the appropriate diameter of the hubcaps:

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And now I have to design dozens of p/e parts:

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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Tom » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:47 pm

That interior is a proper improvement. Looking forward to the final result.

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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Jean B. » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:11 pm

Tom wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:47 pm
That interior is a proper improvement. Looking forward to the final result.
Quite a change regarding your avatar picture :shock: - Most difficult will be to cover the complete interior with the "cloth" resp. the decal paper... I've never done such thing before, we will see how this turns out :)

I've continued to design p/e parts, especially the ones I need first for finishing the bodywork. Here's the design for the roof...

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...but I won't make a window in the sliding roof. On the vintage photo you can recognize that there is only a small rear window positioned quite low. A roof window that should meet this rear window - according to the C25 Aérodyne - should be positioned quite to the rear end of the sliding roof, this would look strange, I guess. The Épokit has no roof window, too, and so I will give up this feature (and will do it with the Aérodyne... :D ):

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P/e films and tin sheets are ready, this will be the work for tomorrow:

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(To make the most of the metal sheet, I also make some spoke wheels for the already started Alvis.)

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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Tom » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:20 pm

I've seen quite a few of your PE sheets already, so I have some practice 'reading' them. This looks great, looking forward to the louvres for instance.

As for the avatar, the old one was deleted by tinypic but I've noticed that flickr does avatar size too. Perhaps I'll change avatars more frequently now.

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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Jager » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:15 pm

i'm looking forward to seeing the development of the roof. Will it actually be able to slide, or will it be fixed ?
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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Jean B. » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:08 pm

Tom wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:20 pm
I've seen quite a few of your PE sheets already, so I have some practice 'reading' them. This looks great, looking forward to the louvres for instance. As for the avatar, the old one was deleted by tinypic but I've noticed that flickr does avatar size too. Perhaps I'll change avatars more frequently now.
Well, there's quite a difference between your last and your new avatar, let's see more :P - And for the louvres, please see below...
Jager wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:15 pm
i'm looking forward to seeing the development of the roof. Will it actually be able to slide, or will it be fixed ?
It will be able to slide, of course... 8-)

Yesterday I wanted to start photo-etching, and being clumsy as usual, I broke the heater in-two... :evil:

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For the instance, there was no alternative than visiting the next tool store with a pet-department and buying a normal aquarium heater. Unfortunately they only reach temperatures of 36 °C (is there really no fish demanding higher temperatures???), and this is ten degrees less than necessary... :roll: I tried - however - to work with, but the 0.2mm sheet needed 70 (!) instead of 20 minutes...:

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...and the 0.5mm sheet (with the roof parts) was completely messed up - quite expensive scrap:

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Luckily I found a new heater on the www, and that was not easy, as the manufacturer of the etching-device has such heaters not in stock, and obviously there's hardly any demand for such items... So I have to wait some further days to continue etching... :)

The 0.2mm parts are very nice, and the louvers are now at their position:

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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Tom » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:19 pm

Looks fantastic!
Shame about the heater...

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Re: Voisin C27 Aérosport double feature: Ixo & Épokit

Post by Jager » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:40 am

Your louvres always lift the quality of your creations Jean. Looks good.
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