What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Jager » Fri May 17, 2019 10:10 am

That's a seriously rough casting. Good luck !
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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Jean B. » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:08 pm

Tom wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 2:05 pm
I'd consider making it myself if I were you. Not much will be left in the end anyway. :lol: The car in the picture is beautiful.
There are so many design sketches of that era which never came to a real car... :roll: Actually you should build up a collection only consisting of cars that never were... ;)
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The Alfa-Romeo 8C would be a fabulous project! Such a sensual shape!
And there are so many more fantastic Alfas which have not survived, but only with a few photos. I wish I had started model building some twenty years earlier...
Jager wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:10 am
That's a seriously rough casting. Good luck !
Thanks! Yes, it's a terrible model. I have to admit that I was completely confused when buying this. The seller declared that as Western Model, but I was of course wondering about that. When having received the car, I remembered that I had already seen the model elsewhere... :)

Already some time ago I found this beautiful Lancia Astura with a striking Pininfarina coachwork, made by Auto Hobby:

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The front bumper is missing, and so...

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...I couldn't resist to buy another one including the bumper. Unfortunately this part is of such poor quality that I will have to make it new from scratch, anyway... :roll:

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And here's the original car, obviously in a very original condition, including the paintwork:

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by BertOne » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:28 pm

Jean B. wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:08 pm
There are so many design sketches of that era which never came to a real car... :roll: Actually you should build up a collection only consisting of cars that never were... ;)
Now that's an idea. I love seeing those old pics of fantastical, fantasy cars that never came to fruition. You could also be reasonably sure that no one else will make them although Autocult might albeit in the dreaded resin!
Lancias are cool; would love to see them transformed.

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Tom » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:12 pm

Great idea, tough to execute though... lots of cars that never made it past a design sketch which leave you with plenty of guesswork.

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Lighters » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:25 pm

Here's my latest acquisition - surely the world's last remaining 'new old stock' SMTS Cizeta Moroder, as repatriated from a Parisian emporium
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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Tom » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:04 pm

Congrats, rare find!

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by GBOAC002 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:43 am

I have the white one bought new in September '98 for a very expensive 30GBP. Lovely model. Red is even better!

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Tihomir » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:30 am

One minivan has arrived.

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Marmon V16

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Duesenberg Special WM in not so good condition. Looking for spare windshield and hood ornament.

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Jean B. » Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:04 pm

Tihomir wrote:
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Congratulations to your new Brooklins and Western Models! I own the Stout and the Duesenberg, too, and the Marmon Coupé instead of the limousine. I also have the Duesenberg made by TinWizard, which of course has a quite different quality compared to Western. Maybe I could do something for you concerning the missing parts, I'll have a look.

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Jean B. » Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:15 pm

BertOne wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:28 pm
Jean B. wrote:
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There are so many design sketches of that era which never came to a real car... :roll: Actually you should build up a collection only consisting of cars that never were... ;)
Now that's an idea. I love seeing those old pics of fantastical, fantasy cars that never came to fruition. You could also be reasonably sure that no one else will make them although Autocult might albeit in the dreaded resin! Lancias are cool; would love to see them transformed.
Autocult really has a thrilling portfolio, but as you say, dreaded resin :roll: ! On the other hand, if they made all their cars in white-metal, I'd have to attack a bank :D !
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Great idea, tough to execute though... lots of cars that never made it past a design sketch which leave you with plenty of guesswork.
Meanwhile I've collected dozens of vintage car designs of the 1930s (virtually), it should be a fantastic plan to make some of them by scratchbuilding... Will I ever try this... ?

Being busy with Lancia, I finally bought this partwork Astura:

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It's one of five (?) so-called "Tipo Bocca" by Pinin Farina.

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Unfortunately they made completely wrong rear wings & tail. The wings should be "long & straight", the bumper straight. Perhaps I'll build this somewhen in the far future, we'll see..

Summertime needs Italian cabriolets, and so I've added this magnificent Alfa Romeo, quite a modern design:

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The chromed version would be difficult to build (the chrome cannot be removed and is difficult to paint), but I can use the plastic roof for the other one :)

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Tom » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:38 pm

I am fairly sure you will eventually progress to building entire cars. Halfway there already.

Very nice buys, looking forward to your builds.

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by reeft1 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:34 pm

It’s not s big leap of my imagination to see you scratch building

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Tihomir » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:21 am

SMTS Aston Martin DB5 in rather unusual brown metallic. Reminds me of Steve McQueen 250 Lusso which I have.

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Tom » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:39 am

Very nice!

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Lighters » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:17 pm

Tihomir wrote:
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SMTS Aston Martin DB5 in rather unusual brown metallic. Reminds me of Steve McQueen 250 Lusso which I have.

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That, Tihomir, is an absolute pearl!

What an acquisition! And a great, distinctive, colour choice. Far, far better than 'silver birch' etc. I salute you Sir!

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by reeft1 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:57 pm

Very nice!

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Lighters » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:42 am

Here's my latest acquisition. Despite paying far too much money, I'm delighted with this SMTS Montreal...
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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by GBOAC002 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:04 am

Nice. SMTS made a good job of it. Minichamps also did the Montreal in green - but die cast metal.

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by BertOne » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:35 pm

Lighters wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:17 pm
Tihomir wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:21 am
SMTS Aston Martin DB5 in rather unusual brown metallic. Reminds me of Steve McQueen 250 Lusso which I have.

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That, Tihomir, is an absolute pearl!

What an acquisition! And a great, distinctive, colour choice. Far, far better than 'silver birch' etc. I salute you Sir!
Hmmm, not sure I'd agree with you there. I'd take the silver birch every time!

Your Alfa Montreal is however in totally the correct colour - although orange would also be acceptable.

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Jean B. » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:31 pm

Couldn't resist to purchase some more "worst case" white metals :D Mikansue, well-known for their high-precision casts, made the beautiful Figoni Roadster on Talbot-Lago chassis:

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French Art-Déco is a must-have for my collection, and so only one is not enough...

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Indeed Figoni & Falaschi made two of those roadsters (actually three, but the third shows quite another bodywork compared to these):

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Chassis 90111, reportedly painted in ivory and red

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Chassis 90115, painted (and nowadays restored) in light-blue metallic and dark-blue iridescent

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Tom » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:25 pm

You'll end up redoing the entire bodyshell...

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Jean B. » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:28 pm

Tom wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:25 pm
You'll end up redoing the entire bodyshell...
...take this for granted... :D

Having just finished the Western Hispano, I couldn't resist to purchase some more of this beautiful model:

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Of course I won't make the same car several times, but will convert the basic model into some even more beautiful variations:

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The blue one shall be converted into this magnificent Saoutchik Roadster, although I am going to have to extend the wheelbase for this one...

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The red one will become this Franay Convertible, I think the closed hood has exactly the same shape.

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And this one could be another awsome attractive model...

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Nice trio!

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Honi soit qui mal y pense! ;)

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Tom » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:35 pm

Wow, that's months worth of projects!

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Re: What Have You Bought Today (white metal)?

Post by Lighters » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:15 pm

Jager wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:59 pm
Jean B. wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:43 pm
Hey, am I the only one collecting white-metals here :o ?
Basically, yes :D .

We have a few collectors who collect the occassional SMTS or similar, but as you have proven, most white metal models have poor proportions and poor detail. Since most of us have neither your time or skill to rebuild them, for the most part we'd rather buy modern resin models where all the hard work is done by someone in China ;) .
Ouch!

With some white metal models, at least, their hand built status and human-informed imperfections ADD to their charm, not dettact from it! I'm an avowed fan of SMTS myself, and their (relative) accuracy deserves plaudits. Plus white metal models have a 'warmth' to them mass production methods will never replicate! And, as Jean has demonstrated, they can be restored like the real cars on which they're modelled!

The only problem, for me at least, is that I can't seem to find enough models that I desire to possess - that's not a problem for resin or die-cast fans!

If anyone trips across any genuinely interesting, but not-too-expensive white metal models on Ebay whilst searching for mass-produced resin and die - cast, I'd be delighted to hear of your discoveries - I think I've got all the models I want, but I would be delighted to be proved otherwise! But I draw the line at old Hillmans, Austins and Cortinas etc :)

I genuinely hope my small, but much-loved, collection hasn't reached its conclusion just yet. That thought genuinely saddens me...

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