Talbot-Lago T150SS Figoni Roadster by Mikansue

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150SS Figoni Roadster by Mikansue

Post by Alex_W » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:22 pm

Great idea!

I used card stock to make a template for the nose scoop on the latest Watson, but it was a trim and test, trim and test operation.

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150SS Figoni Roadster by Mikansue

Post by Jean B. » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:16 pm

Tom wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:35 pm
Those wheels look great!
Thanks! First time I make metal wheels with spokes, but it seems that it will get nice... :)
gilma wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:27 am
Great subject, looks excellent so far. Have you decided about the colors Jean?
Yes, I have. Simply scroll up to the beginning of this thread, there you'll find the descriptions of the original cars which I am going to follow.
reeft1 wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:14 pm
:shock:
:D
Jager wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:30 am
Such a simple technique, it makes you wonder how so many model manufacturers continue to get the shape of their models wrong.
Please remember that these Mikansue models were made in days when women had hairy chests! Nowadays I guess the makers have much more refined techniques to scale down a model. The cases when a model gets really weird, I suppose that's up to the Chinese making them. When I worked in the automobile industry, I learned that the Chinese as well as Saudis simply do not have the right "look" for European cars. (I hope I don't offend anyone here :oops: , sorry!)
Alex_W wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:22 pm
Great idea! I used card stock to make a template for the nose scoop on the latest Watson, but it was a trim and test, trim and test operation.
That's the same what I do! I print out those shapes, and then I also cut them out to try if anything fits. Hard work :) !

Back at work again! All the other works in my cellar workshop are done, and after a heavy cleaning up I can resume building the two Talbots. Starting to make the rear wings:

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The new arches, photo-etched.

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Milling a wide slot into the wings. As the front and rear ends are left, the wing still is solid.

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Adjusting the p/e part in polyester putty.

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This way we get an elegant top line.

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Filling in again.

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After grinding and sanding we slowly get a proper shape :P

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150SS Figoni Roadster by Mikansue

Post by Tom » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:02 pm

There is a huge amount of work left in that. Good luck, I guess it will test your patience!

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Post by Jean B. » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:15 pm

Tom wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:02 pm
There is a huge amount of work left in that. Good luck, I guess it will test your patience!
It will, for sure :) I still plan to finish works on these two models by X-mas. X-mas 2019, I mean :D I consider these cars as a sort of test. You know, I also have two Delahaye 165 by Jabtoys, and those are hardly to recognize as cars at all :roll: If I make these two Talbots, I guess nothing could get worse :lol:

After several turns of shaping and filing slowly the basic shape of the cars comes out:

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Post by Tom » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:23 pm

Wow, impressive progress! That took a lot of time...

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Post by Jager » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:30 am

Lovely work....the streamlined shape is really starting to show.
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Post by David MG » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:06 am

It might have been quicker chiselling a solid block of metal :)
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Post by Jean B. » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:15 pm

Tom wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:23 pm
Wow, impressive progress! That took a lot of time...
...and time is what I've got definitely much too few at the moment :roll: But I really hope that I can now make some bigger steps in building these two roadsters :)
Jager wrote:
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Lovely work....the streamlined shape is really starting to show.
At least a little bit more day by day. I hope that due to the flowing lines all the blemishes won't sting ones eye... ;)
David MG wrote:
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It might have been quicker chiselling a solid block of metal :)
Of course it might have, but it certainly won't be that funny :D

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To achieve a symmetrical tail end, I made p/e templates to be fixed under the bottom edge...

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...and filled in with putty.

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After grinding and filing the template is removed, the bottom edge is quite neat.

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Side view with almost all overdone proportions. The fugues of the rear spats are scribed in.

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It's not always necessary to make templates by photo-etching. This time I only fixed a print-out with double-sided adhesive tape on polysterene...

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...cut it out and fix it with some glue onto the bodyshell.

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This way the fugues can easily scribed into the metal. Then a slot is milled into the tail to fix the photo-etched central fin.

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Filled in with putty and honed...

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...the models look quite fast just in this early stadium :P

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Post by Tom » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:20 pm

They do indeed!
Fabulous work, love the creative solutions.

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Post by Jager » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:07 pm

Top quality work as we’ve come to expect of you Jean.
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Post by Jean B. » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:04 pm

Tom wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:20 pm
They do indeed! Fabulous work, love the creative solutions.
Thanks! I simply have to compensate my lack of technical skills, I guess... :oops:
Jager wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:07 pm
Top quality work as we’ve come to expect of you Jean.
Always trying to entertain my kind audience on S1/43 :D

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Scribing in the fugues really is the most terrible work while model building :evil: I hope that the lines for the bonnet will be the last of these works for this time...

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Always getting a cramp in the hand while doing this...

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However, the result is almost satisfying.

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Adjusting the graphic for the side panel arrow, typical for Figoni designs.

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Making the radiator grille fit to the front end.

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Post by Tom » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:02 pm

Slowly taking shape... looks very good from here already.

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Post by Jean B. » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:17 pm

Tom wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:02 pm
Slowly taking shape... looks very good from here already.
That's the advantage of virtual reality: when looking at the models with a magnifying glass, I regularly get mental breakdowns... :)

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Some more p/e parts, mainly rings for the spoke wheels.

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Rather weird construction to avoid looking at the rear wheels from the inside of the cars.

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Most of this part will be hidden by the bench.

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Continuing with the interior: using a simple polysterene template, I apply putty onto the side panels to get an even ground for fixing the p/e door panels, later.

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Almost perfect!

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Post by Tom » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:37 pm

Looking good!

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Post by Jean B. » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:54 pm

Tom wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:37 pm
Looking good!
Thanks, to be honest: at the moment I have no idea how to make the really difficult works on these models! The extensive brightwork on the rear fenders, the tiny taillights... I hope that I'll get a clue how to do... :)

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Filling & grinding completed. For the moment, at least...

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Marking the position of the top louvers.

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Shaping the p/e louvers a little bit for better fitting to the rounded bonnet.

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Ready!

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Painting all edges with filler for that no gaps are visible anymore.

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Post by Tom » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:03 pm

What a great idea for those louvres!

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Post by Jean B. » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:30 pm

Tom wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:03 pm
What a great idea for those louvres!
And the best is that I am going to use the same design for all further Talbot-Lagos by Western and Ixo, so that they all will have a similar look finally! :P

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Quite a lot of wheels for two cars? Well, I decided to make all necessary wheels for all my Talbot-Lagos right now... :)

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The first headlight was too big, the second too small, but the third - finally - has the right size. First casted one to the right.

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First coating with primer.

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Nice, isn't it?

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The blue one will get faired-in headlights, as I have noticed on the vintage photos.

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The first primer always reveals the blemishes and damages on a model, so the next step will be smoothing all these spots, filling & grinding again and then priming again.

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Post by Tom » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:50 pm

That looks quite smooth already, given the starting point. Excellent work.

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Post by Jean B. » Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:16 pm

Tom wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:50 pm
That looks quite smooth already, given the starting point. Excellent work.
Thanks! Perhaps I should make a small sign indicating that this indeed is a Mikansue model :D

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Starting to assemble the wheels.

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After retouching the bodies almost look like before priming...

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...but a second turn of priming reveals...

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...some improvement, though :)

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Post by Tom » Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:22 pm

I'd probably be very happy with that surface. The fact that you're still working on it makes you a better builder.

Great wheels too.

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Post by Alex_W » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:11 pm

Looking good. I have a white metal car in the works. Wow that stuff is soft!

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Post by reeft1 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:05 am

Super work

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Post by Jean B. » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:28 pm

Tom wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:22 pm
I'd probably be very happy with that surface. The fact that you're still working on it makes you a better builder. Great wheels too.
Thank you :P ! It's the horror of magnifying glasses! From some distance everything looks almost perfect, but enlarged you see any tiny spot. Some of those spots simply cannot be fixed, but at least I try to get the best possible result... :)
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Looking good. I have a white metal car in the works. Wow that stuff is soft!
Yes, it is! However, in my opinion it's the most attractive and suitable material for model cars. You can convert white metal into almost any shape you want and it's still solid. Curious to see your work!
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Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:05 am
Super work
Thanks :P ! Today I had to pause with works on the bodies, as there are some more difficult things to do before proceeding with painting.

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The completed halves for the rims.

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The complete wheel is going to consist of not less than 16 single parts per unit!

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First impression of the completed wheel :)

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150SS Figoni Roadster by Mikansue

Post by Tom » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:31 pm

Your wheels look better with every new model.

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