Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

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Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:21 pm

Hi there, I'm back - that means, I've never left my workbench, but did not show any new projects for my own collection the last weeks... You know, the F3 racer for a client is done, and so - finally! - I can concentrate on my own cars. Last time I made the two Talbot-Lago roadsters by Figoni, and as I have another dozen of Talbot and Figoni models, I wondered if it would be nice to make them all subsequently as many parts are the same or very similar for all those cars. Well, and so I was not lazy, but built exactly 49 wheels for twelve cars:

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The bare metal spoke wheels are already mounted...

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...the rims which are to be painted are primed first.

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The classic spoke wheels...

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...and a set of rather modern spoke wheels...

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...one set with wheel discs...

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...and two sets with white walls. All wheels are based on the same master, this will give the whole subject a coherent look.

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I forgot: the cars :D

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One to be converted into chassis 90107 "carènée"...

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...one into chassis 90117...

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...and the third into chassis 90103.

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Tom » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:46 pm

Beautiful cars, looking forward to all the results of your hard work over the coming weeks.

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by gilma » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:30 am

Great to see some new builds, looking forward to that 8-)

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Paulius43 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:27 am

One of my favorite pre-war designs! I'll get some chips and a nice sofa to watch this thread!
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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:45 pm

Tom wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:46 pm
Beautiful cars, looking forward to all the results of your hard work over the coming weeks.
...let's say the coming months :roll: Feel invited :P
gilma wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:30 am
Great to see some new builds, looking forward to that 8-)
Welcome to this subject, enjoy the story!
Paulius43 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:27 am
One of my favorite pre-war designs! I'll get some chips and a nice sofa to watch this thread!
Great design, isn't it? And don't forget what your mother always said: "go play outside" :D

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Always a big mess, but necessary: the acetone bath :roll:

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Ready to start.

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Fixing the chassis.

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Checking the stance is always difficult with white-metals, as those old hand-made models are crooked in any direction...

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The trim was made masterly by Western Models, though it's quite to crude to keep it the original way. So I decided to solder the parts firmly to the body and making the trim with Bare Metal Foil.

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Alex_W » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:13 pm

Those are some really classy cars, Jean! I appreciate the Stork you sent me for my Hispano-Suiza so if I have any parts you can use just let me know. :D

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:08 pm

Alex_W wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:13 pm
Those are some really classy cars, Jean! I appreciate the Stork you sent me for my Hispano-Suiza so if I have any parts you can use just let me know. :D
Don't be shy, I know what you really want:

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The wings must be newly shaped: The front wings must be more curvaceous, the running boards lower and longer and the forward edge of the rear wing must be more vertical. The first side is made, and I take the shape with this nice instrument to transfer it to the other side and the other cars.

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...which is hardly necessary, I've got a good sense of proportion ;)

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The original shape below.

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Tom » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:28 pm

Wow, that profile gauge is a great idea!

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Post by Alex_W » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:34 pm

Jean B. wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:08 pm
Alex_W wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:13 pm
Those are some really classy cars, Jean! I appreciate the Stork you sent me for my Hispano-Suiza so if I have any parts you can use just let me know. :D
Don't be shy, I know what you really want:

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A true classic!

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by reeft1 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:33 am

I had Wacky Races wallpaper as a 6 yr old.....

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:01 pm

Tom wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:28 pm
Wow, that profile gauge is a great idea!
It's a helpful instrument for such cases. I love browsing through tool catalogues... :P
Alex_W wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:34 pm
A true classic!
:D
reeft1 wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:33 am
I had Wacky Races wallpaper as a 6 yr old.....
What a wonderful childhood... :mrgreen:

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Still not satisfied with the front wings... So I transferred the swing of the original fender to an Inkscape design...

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...fixed the fenders to the baseplate...

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...cut a slot along the fender...

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...checking the proportions with the paper cutout...

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...photo-etching the contures...

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...glueing the p/e parts into the slot...

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...smoothening with some putty...

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...and right now we have a wonderfully shaped front wing!

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The curvature of the front wings was delicately designed by Mr Figoni! Convex and concave curves evoke a "lively" dynamic swing which was shown in the original Western Model not at all!

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Only five times more... :roll:

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Tom » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:38 pm

You're making this into a torture session for yourself by making more models every time... :lol: that front wing was off by a mile, it didn't even look similar. Much better now!

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by reeft1 » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:05 pm

Very clever technique

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:26 am

Tom wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:38 pm
You're making this into a torture session for yourself by making more models every time... :lol: that front wing was off by a mile, it didn't even look similar. Much better now!
This is a torture, you can bet :roll: It's such a hard work to reshape those wings, I'm really exhausted when having made one... But you're right, the original wings looked like the ones of a Jaguar XK120 rather than those of the real Figoni design, so I have no choice... :)
reeft1 wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:05 pm
Very clever technique
First I planned to make the new shape like the time before, with a wire tearing over the wing. But this is also quite difficult with convex/concave curves and it's hardly impossible to make three cars looking the same.

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Much other things to do this week, so there is no big progress, but one fender after the other is getting done.

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Hard to believe, but although all three cars are made from the same mould and have the same baseplates and wheelbase, one of the three has a slightly differently shaped nose, so that the same p/e parts sit differently compared to the two others :shock: That's why I've changed my original chassis numbers and make the "other one" now the car with the hidden front wheels, as this will look unique, anyway... ;)

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Re: Talbot-Lago T150CSS Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:46 pm

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As the front fenders slowly get in shape, I am now starting with the rear fenders and made some additional supporting parts for fixing them. Unfortunately I made a big mistake when designing them :oops: ...

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...so I had to make some further supporting parts of simple cardboard, as I didn't want to repeat the p/e session... :roll:

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However, the first of the six rear fenders in total already received it's new conture, this time soldered - let's see how many months I need for making all three cars... :)

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