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Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:10 pm
by ben1961
Thanks for the tip on your window solution by using printer foil.... I will give it a try, cause I run into that problem all the time.

Thanks also for sharing your amazing builts !!

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:00 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:42 pm
Can you polish the spots off? I think the car would look quite sinister in dark grey or black.
No, this can't be polished, the metal sheet is really hard. It's much easier to make the parts again with the next turn, but you see, you have to check the coated sheets very carefully before using them... :roll: And I think I'll really paint the car in a medium silver tone, dark or black cars always disappear in my showcase... :)
ben1961 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:10 pm
Thanks for the tip on your window solution by using printer foil.... I will give it a try, cause I run into that problem all the time. Thanks also for sharing your amazing builts !!
I'm experimenting with two different types of foil, coated and uncoated, if you want to I'll let you know which one is recommendable. And I'm always happy to receive your comments on S1/43. Being a nerd and sitting the whole day in the dungeon, it's a relief to share my work here :D

The p/e reverse side is glued on the resin wheel master, as well as the profile thread:

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Dunked into clear silicone:

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And the interior door panels mounted on polystyrene as a supporter:

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Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:39 pm
by ben1961
Yes please let me know.. I did not have the time as yet to experiment. My own project is still in the "rough" fase.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:19 pm
by Jean B.
ben1961 wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:39 pm
Yes please let me know.. I did not have the time as yet to experiment. My own project is still in the "rough" fase.
Model building is always an experience in patience - leave your time, and today I've ordered another type of foil, so I'll let you know soon which one I'd prefer.

Meanwhile a third turn of priming & sanding was made, with a nice result:

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This is the first layer of medium gray lacquer as basis for the silver coating:

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The interior should get a medium blue, but I guess I will re-do this in another shade:

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The seats got a darker steel blue:

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Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:21 pm
by Tom
The blue will look great with the silver bodywork. Coming along nicely!

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:15 pm
by LUW
You're going for silver? Will look awesome!

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:18 pm
by Jager
Coming along nicely. Looking forward to seeing it with the top coat. Silver can be difficult....you don't want it to be too shiny, but you also don't want it to be too dull.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:28 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:21 pm
The blue will look great with the silver bodywork. Coming along nicely!
And I've decided to keep the light blue interior. Indeed you will hardly see anything in the closed car, so it's fine for me :)
LUW wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:15 pm
You're going for silver? Will look awesome!
Well, I hope so. I guess the car's impact comes from the shape, so a "neutral" silver works well with the car.
Jager wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:18 pm
Coming along nicely. Looking forward to seeing it with the top coat. Silver can be difficult....you don't want it to be too shiny, but you also don't want it to be too dull.
Therefore I work with AlClad metallic shades for the standard tones like silver, steel etc. They are applied on the glossy base paint, and so the car looks shiny, but due to the AlClad top coat it's just a little bit "satinized". When examining vintage photos of metallic-painted cars, I think that they didn't apply clear top coats in those days.

Today the works proceeded, so the dashboard was made:

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...as well as the passenger shell with all details:

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And the body received a second layer of paint and is already smoothened with 3200 MicroMesh (next steps up to 12000 will follow):

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Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:40 pm
by Tom
The interior looks great and the body is really smooth already. Great work!

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:24 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:40 pm
The interior looks great and the body is really smooth already. Great work!
Sleek and elegant car, isn't it? The smooth shape allows a good polishing, and that's the final result:

ImageTomorrow the AlClad metallic paint will be applied!

Meanwhile the tyres were casted, and the p/e profiles can be glued on:

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And here you can see the hubcaps:

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Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:43 pm
by Tom
Quite an advanced design for its time indeed. The fine metallic structure in the Alclad paint will look great on it.
Looking forward to the finished wheels.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:22 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:43 pm
Quite an advanced design for its time indeed. The fine metallic structure in the Alclad paint will look great on it. Looking forward to the finished wheels.
It's the typical "Paul Jaray" design. He was one of the most famous and busiest aerodynamic engineers of that time in Germany. In fact, he made one streamline design in general, and built this coach on every chassis he got from the car manufacturers. The teardrop shape of this Adler can also be found on Horch, Maybach, Mercedes, Hanomag etc... Significant is the curved but upright windshield and the sleek teardrop tail. His competitor was Wunibald Kamm with the famous "Kamm-Heck" (-tail), the predecessor of today's fastback designs.

Today I've made the metallic finish:

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...and here's a first impression of the wheels:

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Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:28 pm
by Tom
Yep, the perfect colour. Fantastic finish too, I know from experience how hard that is. The wheels look great too.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:27 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:28 pm
Yep, the perfect colour. Fantastic finish too, I know from experience how hard that is. The wheels look great too.
Funny, although my original plan was to build mainly streamlined cars, this is only the second of this type (after the Chenard & Walcker Mistral) which I'm building. After all those spoke wheels, these clean & plain ones are really different, arent' they? :)

The parts for the radiator grille:

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...glued together, waiting for shaping to fit on the body:

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Headlights:

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Completed chassis with wheels:

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Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:41 pm
by Tom
Yes, this one looks 20 years younger than most of your other creations. Jaray clearly was ahead of his time, perhaps the high speeds made possible by the Autobahn accelerated this evolution.
Great work on the details as usual, it's all this work that makes the model stand out even more. The interior looks great too.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:38 pm
by LUW
That grill looks fantastic! Looking forward to seeing it where it belongs.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:18 am
by CDM
Amaazing amount of skill and time into this model.

A model many people wont know anything about and of a car many would no nothing about.

Looking forward to seeing the finished model

Chris

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:10 am
by Jager
Nice to see this coming together Jean. Its a car I've wanted in my Le Mans collection for a long time, but I'm so crazy about that I want to pay GBP 150 :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CCC-MODEL-1- ... SwKwVabyoP

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:52 am
by David MG
Jager wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:10 am
Nice to see this coming together Jean. Its a car I've wanted in my Le Mans collection for a long time, but I'm so crazy about that I want to pay GBP 150 :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CCC-MODEL-1- ... SwKwVabyoP
RM Toys, barmpot :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-43-AutoCul ... Sw4shX6S6a

Plus decals!

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:33 am
by LUW
I wouldn't go as far as calling these people scammers, but they do get close.
Avoid.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:47 am
by Jager
David MG wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:52 am
RM Toys, barmpot :roll:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-43-AutoCul ... Sw4shX6S6a

Plus decals!
Thanks David. I had a feeling Autocult would do this, but they decided to do the road car rather than the race car. This one has a different grill.....its rectangular rather than shield shaped.

I'll keep looking.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:25 pm
by Jean B.
Tom wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:41 pm
Yes, this one looks 20 years younger than most of your other creations. Jaray clearly was ahead of his time, perhaps the high speeds made possible by the Autobahn accelerated this evolution. Great work on the details as usual, it's all this work that makes the model stand out even more. The interior looks great too.
Thank you! It's indeed a new experience to do all the works on this model, the decent disc wheels, curved windows and so on. Let's see how it will turn out finally! :)
LUW wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:38 pm
That grill looks fantastic! Looking forward to seeing it where it belongs.
I was already aware that there would be some complications, so please see below... :?
CDM wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:18 am
Amaazing amount of skill and time into this model. A model many people wont know anything about and of a car many would no nothing about. Looking forward to seeing the finished model Chris
In fact this was one of the first white-metal models I've found on ebay when starting this hobby five years ago. Back then it was too expensive, now I'm happy to have this one. Even if most of the Mikansue models are awful :o ! Adler indeed made five or six cars of that type for customers resp. for the Autobahn. Response was low, and following the cars were mainly used as racing cars.
Jager wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:10 am
Nice to see this coming together Jean. Its a car I've wanted in my Le Mans collection for a long time, but I'm so crazy about that I want to pay GBP 150
You are or you are not? I haven't seen this model before, it seems to be exactly the version Mikansue made, with heart-shaped grille, the disc wheels with screws and so on. Perhaps anywhere else (in the future) it will be a little less expensive. RM-Toys offers a great range, but the prices are always what we call "Mondpreise" ("moon prices") in Germany... :roll:

Well, finally I can post some new pictures! Flickr/Yahoo was unavailable in Germany for five (!) days... :evil: Here we go:

When punching the grille into shape radiator mask and frame separated (I knew that before...):

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It was very difficult to shape the two single parts in a way that they fit together on the car, but I think the result is acceptable:

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"Wedding" took place:

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Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:35 pm
by Tom
That is a lot more than acceptable, it looks fantastic! I love the sleek shape, accentuated by the great paint finish.

Re: Trumpf Adler Reichs-Autobahn-Wagen by Mikansue

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:30 pm
by Jager
Congratulations on the grill. That's turned out really well.