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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Jager » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:06 am

Paul, at the moment I don't know if anyone from here is going this year.

Many of the Spark shops at Le Mans are run in partnership with BAM as you probably know. However I just checked the BAM website but they are showing the Lola as being sold out as well, which would torpedo my theory :

https://boutiqueautomoto.com/index.php? ... uery=S4948
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by JohnL » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:19 am

So....I was lucky to get the Lola? Mind you, I ordered it from John when first seen in the catalogue. I do worry about late ordering - sometimes, unless you've been keeping an eye out, some models slip past....

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by JohnL » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:17 pm

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Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:58 pm


It has indeed but at very limited numbers by the sound of it. I have just seen it on two UK websites for £179.00 :o

Wouldn't be Trax Models by any chance?
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Brecht » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:40 am

Porsche was selling limited edition models from their Rothmans and Pink Pig GTE cars at their official shop in Le Mans.
1:43, Produced by Spark and only available at Le Mans. Not even in the Porsche museum.

They came in a special collectors packaging, which had a picture on the back of the original pink pig and 962.
Price was 65€ per model.

Decided to buy both as an investment. (Still buying the standard Spark release later)
The only thing what is missing from the race version are the total decals they told me.

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Tom » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:58 am

Would love to own the regular releases at some moment.

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:48 pm

Very nice additions Brecht .

I was tempted to buy them from Selection RS last week, the pig was signed by Kevin Estre too , but ill wait for the regular versions.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by PLAYLIFE » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:06 pm

Visited the Spark stands at Le Mans over the weekend. Tapped one guy on the shoulder and asked if he worked for Spark. After receiving a positive reply I enquired why they haven't produced the long tail Porsche 917-s. I explained I could buy Ebbro and Minichamps, but I didn't appreciate the quality. He said they had actually produced them for a German magazine. But then he admitted that was over ten years ago. I told him I had acquired the two 1971 longtails, but the rest I just can't buy. And then continued to stare at him with dissappointed eyes to which he replied "I guess we should put those on the list of upcoming models then". I said I'd really appreciate it. That was pretty much it.

Fingers crossed they will do it some day. I'm really hoping for the following models:

1969 Le Mans #10 917LH
1969 Le Mans #12 917LH
1969 Le Mans #14 917LH
1969 Le Mans #15 917LH
1970 Le Mans #3 917LH
1970 Le Mans #25 917LH
1971 Le Mans #21 917LH
1971 Le Mans #19 917K

I also wanted to write them a letter. They contact form on the homepage gives me an error message. Does anyone know how to reach them by letter?

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Jager » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:32 pm

Congratulations on the retro Porsches Brecht. At 65€ per model I'm not sure how much of an investment they will be (especially if the livery is wrong), but enjoy them knowing the rest of us will probably have to wait 12 months before we get the regular releases.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by PLAYLIFE » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:11 pm

The Rothmans look-a-like car looked beautiful in person.

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by SPR Models » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:05 am

PLAYLIFE wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:06 pm
Visited the Spark stands at Le Mans over the weekend. Tapped one guy on the shoulder and asked if he worked for Spark. After receiving a positive reply I enquired why they haven't produced the long tail Porsche 917-s. I explained I could buy Ebbro and Minichamps, but I didn't appreciate the quality. He said they had actually produced them for a German magazine. But then he admitted that was over ten years ago. I told him I had acquired the two 1971 longtails, but the rest I just can't buy. And then continued to stare at him with dissappointed eyes to which he replied "I guess we should put those on the list of upcoming models then". I said I'd really appreciate it. That was pretty much it.

I also wanted to write them a letter. They contact form on the homepage gives me an error message. Does anyone know how to reach them by letter?
Hi PLAYLIFE. Spark's address is on there 'Contact Us' page...

Minimax Import & Export Co.Ltd.
28/D Lei Pou Kok, Flower City,
Avenida Olimpica,
Taipa, Macau.


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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by LM24HRS » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:10 pm

Here's a question for those interested in models with numbers on their doors.

What is the chances of Spark producing the complete Le Mans 2018 grid?

Or re-phrased, which models will they not produce?
I suspect, any Ferrari's, BMW's and the Ford GT's...................anything else?

At say £60 per model (by the time they get released), a full grid could set you back £3,600. :o
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by csl143 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:23 pm

LM24HRS wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:10 pm
Here's a question for those interested in models with numbers on their doors.

What is the chances of Spark producing the complete Le Mans 2018 grid?

Or re-phrased, which models will they not produce?
I suspect, any Ferrari's, BMW's and the Ford GT's...................anything else?

At say £60 per model (by the time they get released), a full grid could set you back £3,600. :o
Pretty sure Mark at Replicarz has said several times in his weekly videos that Spark makes the Looksmart Ferrari's. Wouldn't be surprised if they make many TSM models too. BMW's shouldn't be a problem this year. We only have a problem there when some a**h*l* artist decides a 1/43 copy is a problem. (Obviously I don't understand that issue when the model made is rather high quality that fairly represents the subject). Guess I have somewhat of an opinion on the matter. Never heard of Jeff Koons until the BMW art car. (http://decaldoc.de) And the Corvette from last year? At least there is the JPS kit. Ultimately, models will be made anyways. Unfortunately the ones wanting the models of those will need building skills or need to be willing to pay someone for it to be made for them. Sorry for mini rant. But yea, I assume Spark will make the entire grid. The Porsche presentation cars have already been made. Those 911's aren't race accurate though.

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Jager » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:13 pm

LM24HRS wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:10 pm
Here's a question for those interested in models with numbers on their doors.

What is the chances of Spark producing the complete Le Mans 2018 grid?

Or re-phrased, which models will they not produce?
I suspect, any Ferrari's, BMW's and the Ford GT's...................anything else?

At say £60 per model (by the time they get released), a full grid could set you back £3,600. :o
Hopefully the cost is a little less than that. I did a quick calculation of the cost of the grid using SPR's prices (before shipping costs or customs duty) :

TSM (Ford GT's) : 4 @ £63 = £252
Looksmart (Ferrari's) : 8 @ £70 = £560
Spark (All Others) : 48 @ £43 = £2,064
Total : 60 = £2,876

Maybe Spark and its dealers could implement a volume discount scheme.

If you by cars individually, you pay full price.
Buy 12 or more (ie all the class winners) and you get 10% off
Buy 30 or more (ie half the grid) and you get 15% off
Buy the entire grid and you get 20% off.

I have known one collector who was collecting the entire grid each year, but I think that's quite rare.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Serafa » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:39 pm

Jager wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:13 pm
I have known one collector who was collecting the entire grid each year, but I think that's quite rare.
Collecting the entire LM grid is a remarkable achievement. We are talking about approx. 60 cars per year, that's a lot just for one race.

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:43 pm

Serafa wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:39 pm
Jager wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:13 pm
I have known one collector who was collecting the entire grid each year, but I think that's quite rare.
Collecting the entire LM grid is a remarkable achievement. We are talking about approx. 60 cars per year, that's a lot just for one race.
I wonder what its like just buying 60 cars a year :lol:
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by LM24HRS » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:39 am

This is all very interesting reading to absorb. In my earlier collecting years I had drive to collect complete LM grids of the years I attended the race.....about 18 to date. Little did I realize the difficulty in trying to do so.
So far the only complete grids I have managed to fill are, 2006,07 & 08 and thats because of very few kits to build.

I am no kit builder (but I am trying to correct that..slowly), so I rely on the likes of Spark etc. I soon therefore discovered collecting whole grids as a bit of a lost cause due to the need to adapt models etc so I lost the passion in trying to achieve my goals.

This year it looks a strong case to go for it as there appears to be very few chances of licence issues, art cars etc as mentioned in previous posts. Trouble is I didn't get to LM this year but I do like a lot if the liveries and a whole grid in one cabinet does look good.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by csl143 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:21 pm

Serafa wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:39 pm
Jager wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:13 pm
I have known one collector who was collecting the entire grid each year, but I think that's quite rare.
Collecting the entire LM grid is a remarkable achievement. We are talking about approx. 60 cars per year, that's a lot just for one race.
I had heard of someone that did that as well, up until his death. Grand Prix Models wrote a small story on the person I'm thinking of. He died a couple years ago. Can't remember his name right now. He was a kit builder as well. He had completed the grid for every 24 LM since the beginning. A friend had met him and mentioned him going to races, getting all the photos he could before the start. Not just at Le Mans. My friend had seen him at the Daytona 24 also. Wouldn't necessarily stay to watch the races though.

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Jager » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:17 pm

csl143 wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:21 pm
I had heard of someone that did that as well, up until his death. Grand Prix Models wrote a small story on the person I'm thinking of. He died a couple years ago. Can't remember his name right now. He was a kit builder as well. He had completed the grid for every 24 LM since the beginning. A friend had met him and mentioned him going to races, getting all the photos he could before the start. Not just at Le Mans. My friend had seen him at the Daytona 24 also. Wouldn't necessarily stay to watch the races though.
Yes, I remember the gentleman you referred to. There was also a mechanic who worked for the Pescarolo team who donated his collection to the Le Mans Museum at the track and through various forums I've met a collector who has every grid since 1982.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by LM24HRS » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:40 am

Ron Peggs is the gentleman in question.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by 911RSR » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:28 pm

Jager wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:32 pm
Congratulations on the retro Porsches Brecht. At 65€ per model I'm not sure how much of an investment they will be (especially if the livery is wrong), but enjoy them knowing the rest of us will probably have to wait 12 months before we get the regular releases.
Well, currently they are listed for crazy prices. CK had them both in stock today and they asked a whopping €400 euro for the pig and they even did sell it. Currently only the rothmans is available for 300...

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:06 pm

911RSR wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:28 pm
Jager wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:32 pm
Congratulations on the retro Porsches Brecht. At 65€ per model I'm not sure how much of an investment they will be (especially if the livery is wrong), but enjoy them knowing the rest of us will probably have to wait 12 months before we get the regular releases.
Well, currently they are listed for crazy prices. CK had them both in stock today and they asked a whopping €400 euro for the pig and they even did sell it. Currently only the rothmans is available for 300...
Absolute proof that Le Mans collectors are just stupid...........or maybe im stupid for not buying a signed Kevin Estre car for 80 Euro before the race and making a killing on it.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by csl143 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:57 pm

LM24HRS wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:40 am
Ron Peggs is the gentleman in question.
Ah yes, thank you.

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by LUW » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:14 pm

911RSR wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:28 pm
Jager wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:32 pm
Congratulations on the retro Porsches Brecht. At 65€ per model I'm not sure how much of an investment they will be (especially if the livery is wrong), but enjoy them knowing the rest of us will probably have to wait 12 months before we get the regular releases.
Well, currently they are listed for crazy prices. CK had them both in stock today and they asked a whopping €400 euro for the pig and they even did sell it. Currently only the rothmans is available for 300...
They must be snorting dry ripe pygmy giraffe dung.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by JSB33 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:35 am

There are seemingly plenty of people with money to burn that are willing to step up to have things that are hard to get.
Not what I collect for for sure.
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