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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by oldirish33 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:25 pm

Going to be tempted with the Shell 962 as an upgrade to the Quartzo I've had forever. Interesting that these cars were not on the release list of US based dealers for new Spark releases. Europe only?
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by LM24HRS » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:57 pm

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According to Grand Prix Models, Spark will re-release four of their classic Le Mans models :

- 1970 #20 'Gulf' Porsche 917K-
- 1971 #23 'Pink Pig' Porsche 917/20
- 1988 #17 'Shell' Porsche 962 (2nd)
- 1994 #35 'Shell' Dauer-Porsche 962 (3rd)
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by oldirish33 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:10 pm

I am curious if Spark ever released the Lola GT from Le Mans in 1963 (S4948)? The yearbook I just received indicates a 12/2017 release date, but the dealer I usually order from (Replicarz) still shows it as a future release and I dont every recall seeing it released. I see one or two at grossly inflated prices on ebay, so what happened?
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by scalainj » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:58 am

As far as i understand it not many were released for a reason i don't know so something like a third of orders were met
Hence the very inflated prices online
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by LUW » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:11 am

Caspita, I would be ALL over that Lola :cry:
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Jager » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:01 am

They certainly were released Jerry, but you had to be really lucky to get one. I'd had mine on order with John at SPR for a couple of years prior to release, so building a long term relationship certainly paid off.

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The biggest problem is we don't know the reasoning. Was it a production problem like a flaw with the mold ? If that was the case, then why have Spark announced other versions. Surely if they have the mold to produce other versions, they they could reproduce more of the the Le Mans version ?

That leads me to question whether its a legal/ licencing issue ? Given Spark have produced hundred of Lola's and are producing other GT's, presumable the issue isn't with Lola. It presumably isn't with the drivers either given Spark have done plenty of models from Attwood and Hobbs.

In my mind that leaves one option.....the current owner of the car. After serving as a test vehicle for the Ford GT40 project, LGT/1 was stored, partly built, for many years. It was eventually restored in 2000 / 2001 to its original Le Mans specification for a new Japanese owner. Is the new owner blocking the release of this one (and if so, do Spark still have a warehouse full of these that they can't release for now).

Which begs the question, if you want one, do you pay the crazy ebay prices now (knowing prices will rise even further is there are no more released), or wait it out hoping Spark have a secret stash of models and will find a solution to whatever licencing issue is preventing their release. Unfortunately history suggest licencing issues never get resolved easily......we've now been waiting 8 years for the 2010 BMW Art Car with no sign it will ever get resolved.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by oldirish33 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:06 am

I suspected something along these lines since some are out there and based on aution asking prices, not many. I dont want it that bad. Few if any made it here since I have had it on pre-order since announced.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by LM24HRS » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:35 pm

I even saw one of these Lola's go on ebay the other week less its out boxing.................wait for it.....c£80+ :o

I concur with Ian on the LM2010 BMW Art Car. To date it has only been released in 1:18th scale and you need a mortgage to purchase one if you are lucky to find one!
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by SPR Models » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:04 am

Jager wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:01 am
They certainly were released Jerry, but you had to be really lucky to get one. I'd had mine on order with John at SPR for a couple of years prior to release, so building a long term relationship certainly paid off.

The biggest problem is we don't know the reasoning. Was it a production problem like a flaw with the mold ? If that was the case, then why have Spark announced other versions. Surely if they have the mold to produce other versions, they they could reproduce more of the the Le Mans version ?

That leads me to question whether its a legal/ licencing issue ? Given Spark have produced hundred of Lola's and are producing other GT's, presumable the issue isn't with Lola. It presumably isn't with the drivers either given Spark have done plenty of models from Attwood and Hobbs.

In my mind that leaves one option.....the current owner of the car. After serving as a test vehicle for the Ford GT40 project, LGT/1 was stored, partly built, for many years. It was eventually restored in 2000 / 2001 to its original Le Mans specification for a new Japanese owner. Is the new owner blocking the release of this one (and if so, do Spark still have a warehouse full of these that they can't release for now).

Which begs the question, if you want one, do you pay the crazy ebay prices now (knowing prices will rise even further is there are no more released), or wait it out hoping Spark have a secret stash of models and will find a solution to whatever licencing issue is preventing their release. Unfortunately history suggest licencing issues never get resolved easily......we've now been waiting 8 years for the 2010 BMW Art Car with no sign it will ever get resolved.
I can confirm that S4948 was released in June 2018, however as Distributors, our advanced orders were reduced by approx 30%. It was a shame, because it was a gorgeous looking model, and we had a lot of pre-orders for the Lola Mk6 GT. We had to ration our reduced allocation, and supply those Customers who pre-ordered first (some of our Customers pre-ordered the little Lola back in 2016).

The reason given by Spark for the reduced quantity was "production problems".

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by oldirish33 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:58 am

Thanks for the explanation. I guess I will hope to get one of the other versions.
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by reeft1 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:19 pm

This should please fans of Lotus and Transporters

https://www.grandprixmodels.com/SPK2659 ... Spark.aspx

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by oldirish33 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:46 pm

That will be a must have for the Lotus shelf!
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by dbonser » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:18 am

This is going on the wishlist:

S7700 Toyota Celica LB Turbo 1977 ADAC Trophy Winner H. Ertl
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Serafa » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:51 am

Indeed a very tempting model, I'm still thinking if I should add it. Probably yes...

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:18 am

Announced for early next year ....LM service vehicles which are due for release in March - April 2019

S7046 Porsche 911 Turbo 'Safety Car'
S7047 Porsche Macan GTS 'Track Car'
S7048 Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo 'Race Control'
S7049 Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo 'Medical Car'

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by jna » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:32 am

The #34 Team Australia 956 is from Le Mans 1984. Look at the picture above to see one of the errors Spark has made and here is a note sent to me in advance of my supplier shipping the model to me:

"After checking the model received ‘1983’ (instead of 1984) is not only printed on the base and the box stickers, but also on the ‘24 Heures du Mans’ sticker on the model"

He also comments that "the sun screen seems far too red". From comparing the picture with my Biante model and various photographs he is correct.
Another note from my supplier regarding the above:

He says, "Spark has recently released a (partial) fix with the right year for the ‘Porsche 956 #34 Team Australia Le Mans 1984’ (S5520) :
- base
- ‘24h du Mans’ decals
The most important (sunscreen with the right colour) is missing ...
I will send you one set."

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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by oldirish33 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:13 am

dbonser wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:18 am
This is going on the wishlist:

S7700 Toyota Celica LB Turbo 1977 ADAC Trophy Winner H. Ertl
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I may have to just because I had a street version of a Celica fastback at that time. :D
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Re: 2018 Sparks

Post by LUW » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:04 am

I have absolutely NO business with that Celica, but that's a darn-fine-looking card box racer.
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