INDIANAPOLIS 500

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Re: INDIANAPOLIS 500

Post by oldirish33 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:40 pm

Chaparral 2K, 1980 winner -Spark

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JSB33 wrote:
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Really enjoying seeing your collection of Indy cars.
Thanks! I think I have now shown all of mine. The last is one of my favorites being a big Jim Hall fan and always liked Lone Star JR.
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That last one looks a treat in the iconic colours. Is the rear wing registered in a separate postcode (or zip code) :lol:
It may have been possible for it to finish first and last! :D
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Re: INDIANAPOLIS 500

Post by JSB33 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:33 am

And with this car you have reached my personal cut off line for having any interest in the cars of Indy. What a grand way to do it.
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Re: INDIANAPOLIS 500

Post by Jager » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:17 am

Aside from the name, how much connection did the 1979 winner have with Chaparral’s cars of the ‘60’s ?
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Re: INDIANAPOLIS 500

Post by oldirish33 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:10 pm

First, I goofed. The 2K was introduced in 1979 and driven by Al Unser, Sr. that season, but despite leading failed to finish at Indy. In 1980, Johnny Rutherford drove it to victory. Jim Hall turned his back on racing for a time after the 2J was banned. In the mid-70's he returned with a F5000 Lola and the Chaparral team won the title three years running. They also won Indy in 1978 with a Chaparral entered Lola. The 2K was a completely Chaparral designed car incorporating ground effects they developed, which were ahead of their time. Sound familiar? Hall retired from racing again following the 1981 season.

Here's a link to a brief article on the 2K: https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car ... th.html
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Re: INDIANAPOLIS 500

Post by oldirish33 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:31 pm

JSB33 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:33 am
And with this car you have reached my personal cut off line for having any interest in the cars of Indy. What a grand way to do it.
Mine existed into the mid-90's even though we continued to go to the local Indy car races at Portland and Vancouver after the IRL/CART split in 1996 and USAC no longer sanctioned the 500. I plan to add more Indy winners from the 1980's as they become available. Personally, I liked the Indy car racing in the 80's and it was a time when I think it had some of its best drivers. Guys like Mears, Rutherford, Andretti's, Unser's, Rahal, Fittipaldi, Lyendyk, Foyt, etc.
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Re: INDIANAPOLIS 500

Post by k1w1taxi » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:39 pm

JSB33 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:10 am

After 1980 Indy enterd the time where you simply bought a car from a race car factory, got an engine program ,bring in a foriegn driver who had money to buy the ride and get yourself a race engineer and there you go. The USAC oval track driver was no longer viewed as worthy (or having enough money) To me it was the start of US Oval track racing wanting to be F1 Junior. The old gaurd was pushed aside and the old ways of doing business was starting. It wasn't the same for me.
I hear you Jeff. It's what they like to call progress - then wonder why all forms of historic racing are so well liked by the fans. Of course if you like to see the oval track drivers progress to top level racing these days there is always NASCAR... I'll just get my hat on the way out :)

But seriously the oval skills for driving with more power than grip are still quite applicable to NASCAR unlike any single seater class where it is all about smoothness so as not to disturb the great god 'Aero'. Unfortunately even my beloved rallying has fallen into this trap with the current crop of over winged over complicated missiles.

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