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Le Mans racers

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:45 pm

Im sure this will be a very popular thread as there are lots of racing fans here.

Gentlemen , start your engines ;)

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Post by RaceOddity » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:20 pm

Well, imagine that. A Porsche!! Spark has really done well since bringing out their line, but HPI.. what can you say. I had to settle for this Minichamps GT3 because those guys don't make them. I had ulterior motives for getting the PWL Porsches. ;)
The Black GT3 is from Daytona. It's one of PLN's cars driven the year he was 75 years old. He also won his class at Road America in an SCCA sanctioned event which took place on his birthday.
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Post by jinx » Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:52 am

Three of the Alpine-Renaults from LM 1978 - A443 #1 retired, A442B #2 won & A442 #4 finished 4th

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Post by jinx » Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:12 am

Cars from LM 1988

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Post by guitardave_1 » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:42 pm

A popular thread indeed. In fact, Steve already has one just to himself!

The first few of mine:

Ferrari 250LM - Winner, 1965 - IXO
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Jaguar D Type - Winner, 1956 - IXO
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Ford GT40 - Winner, 1968 - IXO
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Post by jinx » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:23 am

Three Sigmas from LM 1973, '74 & '75 - all by Bizarre

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Post by guitardave_1 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:12 pm

A couple from the '70s.

Renault Alpine A442B - Winner, 1978 - Minichamps
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Porsche 935 K3 - Winner, 1979 - Spark
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Post by scalainj » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:26 pm

Cool models guys.

I'm waiting for Steve to really get into his stride :)

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Post by jinx » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:31 pm

scalainj wrote:Cool models guys.

I'm waiting for Steve to really get into his stride :)

Andy
Trouble is Andy, I could just duplicate my LM collection thread - I will have to do some different photos, probably in related groups, such as Rothmans Porsches or cars from a given year.

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Post by scalainj » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:36 pm

jinx wrote:
scalainj wrote:Cool models guys.

I'm waiting for Steve to really get into his stride :)

Andy
Trouble is Andy, I could just duplicate my LM collection thread - I will have to do some different photos, probably in related groups, such as Rothmans Porsches or cars from a given year.
I know this feeling only too well Steve. Am drumming up the enthusiasm to have an Audi shoot in themes. I think group shots in years works well.

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Post by RaceOddity » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:47 pm

Well here are some of my favourites also. The 96 Giroux Mac is just because it's new not cause it's a winner. I think Spark makes aguably the best corvettes in C5 and C6 types, seems PMA has withdrawn from the field. LOve the Spark attention to detail on rotors and calipers( sorry but I harp about the calipers a lot).
On theAston Martin, the Ixo version that I shot has Brabhamès name on it but not the ACO sticker! At any rate here are a few more, the Ford GT is for GuitarDave. Hope you like it.
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Post by RaceOddity » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:50 pm

Here are a couple more.
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Post by RaceOddity » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:52 pm

Oh right, the IXO Aston has an incomplete ACO sticker. :oops:

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Post by guitardave_1 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:26 am

I like far more than the GT40 Scott! The Aston and some sort of C6R are both on my list. That's the '69 GT40 though (the caption may just be a typo) - I still need that car too.

Some Group C

Porsche 956 - Winner, 1984 - HPI
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Sauber C9 - Winner, 1989 - HPI
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Mazda 787B - Winner, 1991 - HPI
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Peugeot 905B (is this still Group C?) - Winner, 1992 - Altaya
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Post by jinx » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:49 am

Dave, the Peugeot isn't a Group C car, but, was made to the Category 1 rules, first used at LM in 1991. Basically the Cat 1 cars were limited a an engine with a maximum capacity of 3,500 cc, normally aspirated. The old Group C cars were reclassified as Cat 2 - engines rules were freer & was really a fuel consumption class, hence V12 normally aspirated Jaguars, Wankel Rotary Mazdas or V8 turbo Saubers.

In 1991, Jaguar brought along V8 3.5 litre XJR-14s (Cat 1) & V12 7.4 litre XJR-12s (Cat 2). The 3.5 litre Jags were not actually raced & the V12s finished 2nd, 3rd & 4th. Similarly, Sauber had the Cat 1 C291 (not raced) & Cat 2 C11s (one finished 5th). Obviously, the winning Mazda was also in Cat 2.

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Post by guitardave_1 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:04 am

jinx wrote:Dave, the Peugeot isn't a Group C car, but, was made to the Category 1 rules, first used at LM in 1991. Basically the Cat 1 cars were limited a an engine with a maximum capacity of 3,500 cc, normally aspirated. The old Group C cars were reclassified as Cat 2 - engines rules were freer & was really a fuel consumption class, hence V12 normally aspirated Jaguars, Wankel Rotary Mazdas or V8 turbo Saubers.

In 1991, Jaguar brought along V8 3.5 litre XJR-14s (Cat 1) & V12 7.4 litre XJR-12s (Cat 2). The 3.5 litre Jags were not actually raced & the V12s finished 2nd, 3rd & 4th. Similarly, Sauber had the Cat 1 C291 (not raced) & Cat 2 C11s (one finished 5th). Obviously, the winning Mazda was also in Cat 2.
Thanks for that Steve. So neither the Peugeot or the Mazda was Group C. That's something I've failed to find out for certain until now.

I'm sure HPI list the Mazda in their Group C range - presumably in error!
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guitardave_1 wrote:
jinx wrote:Dave, the Peugeot isn't a Group C car, but, was made to the Category 1 rules, first used at LM in 1991. Basically the Cat 1 cars were limited a an engine with a maximum capacity of 3,500 cc, normally aspirated. The old Group C cars were reclassified as Cat 2 - engines rules were freer & was really a fuel consumption class, hence V12 normally aspirated Jaguars, Wankel Rotary Mazdas or V8 turbo Saubers.

In 1991, Jaguar brought along V8 3.5 litre XJR-14s (Cat 1) & V12 7.4 litre XJR-12s (Cat 2). The 3.5 litre Jags were not actually raced & the V12s finished 2nd, 3rd & 4th. Similarly, Sauber had the Cat 1 C291 (not raced) & Cat 2 C11s (one finished 5th). Obviously, the winning Mazda was also in Cat 2.
Thanks for that Steve. So neither the Peugeot or the Mazda was Group C. That's something I've failed to find out for certain until now.

I'm sure HPI list the Mazda in their Group C range - presumably in error!
As For HPI, this could be a little confusing, but, bear with me. The winning Mazda #55 was entered in Cat 2, with all the other ex-group C cars (V12 Jags, Sauber C11s). However, in previous years, the Mazdas were not entered in Group C - in 1986, '87, '88, '89 & '90, they competed in either the IMSA or GTP classes. I'm not entirely sure about the difference between Group C regulations v IMSA/GTP, but, the latter ran to N American rules. Consequently, HPI are technically wrong, in calling the '91 Mazda 787B, a Group C car.......However, I think the 787B, is in the right spirit.

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Post by guitardave_1 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:09 am

jinx wrote:
guitardave_1 wrote:I'm sure HPI list the Mazda in their Group C range - presumably in error!
As For HPI, this could be a little confusing, but, bear with me. The winning Mazda #55 was entered in Cat 2, with all the other ex-group C cars (V12 Jags, Sauber C11s). However, in previous years, the Mazdas were not entered in Group C - in 1986, '87, '88, '89 & '90, they competed in either the IMSA or GTP classes. I'm not entirely sure about the difference between Group C regulations v IMSA/GTP, but, the latter ran to N American rules. Consequently, HPI are technically wrong, in calling the '91 Mazda 787B, a Group C car.......However, I think the 787B, is in the right spirit.
Thanks once again Steve. I'm pretty sure I follow you. I too consider the 787B to be a Group C car in all but classification - it seems to have much in common with the 'real' Group C cars.

I'll let the thread get back on track now...!
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Post by RaceOddity » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:57 pm

Thanx for the happy thots Dave, as for the #6 GT40, no I cannot typeeenbjhglhgbvr[pvb either.... sorry ,bad sight gag :? . However on another note I do have a second #6 gt40..... maybe we should talk, or not it's up to you. I've got a pile of doubles and the occasional triple... yes, I am very very impulsive. what's the limit again for picture size here? I'm just beside myself to be able to show models to other peeple.

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Post by niki23 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:48 am

Here's some of mine...

Aston Martin DBR9 24 hrs LeMans 2005 #59 Brabham/Sarrazin/Turner by IXO:
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McLaren F1 GTR Longtail 24 hrs LeMans 1997 #42 Lehto/Piquet/Soper by IXO:
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Porsche 911 GT1 24 hrs LeMans 1997 #29 Jabouille/Bouresche by Minichamps:
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McLaren F1 GTR 24 hrs LeMans 1995 #50 Giroix/Delétraz/Grouillard by Minichamps:
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McLaren F1 GTR 24 hrs LeMans 1996 #34 Owen-Jones/Raphanel/Brabham by Minichamps:
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McLaren F1 GTR 24 hrs LeMans 1995 #59 Dalmas/Lehto/Sekiya by Minichamps:
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Post by guitardave_1 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:44 pm

Still very taken with that Fina Mclaren Niki. Another great livery.
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Post by RaceOddity » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:25 pm

Really nice pics of the Mac's. I especially like the BPR Giroux Mac (#7) I managed to gather in the #50 from LM. Great camera work. :)
Always good to see team cars.

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Post by guitardave_1 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:41 am

These two were both added long before I had really made the decision to switch to 1:43. Hard to see why I wasn't immediately convinced really!

TVR T400R - 2004 - Spark
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Post by RaceOddity » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:01 pm

Those are outstanding pics of your Macs. The blue #7 Giroix though is the BPR World Championship car. :o If you check the roof you'll note the ACO sticker s not there. The LM car was numbered #50 but almost identical otherwise. Don't feel bad tho, not only is it a beaut, but it's even more rare than the #50 car is!! :lol:

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