Silberpfeil - The Silver arrows - Update 2013

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Silberpfeil - The Silver arrows - Update 2013

Post by stewil » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:37 am

My Silberpfeil display spirals through time and it finally has
a display case to cover it. I hope you enjoy the pictures.

There it is between the chairs. Posters and pictures all pertain to the display.
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Some close ups of the type of information shown for each model.
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The nose of the car to the right is an unbuilt kit of the Mercedes that set the record earlier on that fateful day.
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The new pictures that were added on 11/9/10
Added were a 1939 Mercedes-Benz 3000cc Rekordwagen at the left front base and a 2004 McLaren Mercedes MP4-19, D. Coulthard F1 seen at the right rear base. Note the associated books below the display.
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and here is a closer view of the Rekordwagon that I feel so fortunate to have obtained. This car, built on a W154 Grand Prix chassis, set the kilo and mile standing start Class D International records on the "autobahn" near Dessau in 1939. Standing start records: 110.30 MPH for the kilometer record & 127.12 MPH for the mile, with Rudolf Caracciola driving in Feb, 1939. Cooling provided by ice tank, nose air intake only fed the carbs.
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2013 Update
Here are some other pictures of additions and modifications to the display made over the last three years.

The Silver Arrow display spirals through time.
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Display was completed this year with the addition of these two models, the
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and the
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The Silver Arrow library.
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Post by jinx » Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:55 pm

Fantastic Steve - utterly superb.

I must admit, not my area of model collecting - reading material something else. One of my favourite books is Chris Nixon's "Racing the Silver Arrows". He was fortunate enough to interview many of the participants of the era - a fascinating read.

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Post by guitardave_1 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:24 pm

What else is left to say about your room/collection Steve...

One thing I do know - I underestimated the size of it originally! You really do have some of everything. These pre-war GP monsters are not yet on my radar, but they could so easily be.
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Post by JSB33 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:25 pm

Fantastic Presentaion of some super important cars, Steve.
very enjoyable.
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Post by DeadCanDanceR » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:29 am

To have a room like that one would be like living in Disneyland! :)

Fascinating as usual, Steve! ;)
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Post by GBOAC002 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:54 am

Truly an Aladdin's Cave to make us all envious. Fabulous! The captions certainly help highlight the history of your replicas and save you having to explain to visitors the significance of what they are seeing in your display cases.

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Post by RaceOddity » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:22 am

Thankyou for another trip into your museum.
Wow. Cool display and as always good stories.

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Post by scalainj » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:44 am

Thats a nice display and case - did you have them custom made?

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Post by stewil » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:48 pm

Andy,
I found the spiral step display seemingly forgotten on the floor behind a counter in a store, and the owner was willing to sell it.
The dust cover was manufactured to my specifications by a company called Speciality Plastics. Hope this helps.
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Re: Silberpfeil - The Silver arrows - New pics added 11/9/10

Post by stewil » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:22 am

Two new pictures were added on 11/9/10.
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Post by JSB33 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:48 pm

The Auto Union is pretty darn cool. Looks fast even today.
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Post by stewil » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:36 pm

So true Jeff
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Post by Tom » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:45 pm

Fabulous display! I've always been fascinated by that era, despite the nazis never being far away. I even have a copy of the 1938 ook 'Mein Mann, der Rennfahrer', detailing the life of Bernd Rosemeyer as told by his widow. It's printed in Gothic lettering however, which makes it really hard to read.

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Post by Ianus » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:36 am

Awesome collection of Silver Arrows.

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Post by stewil » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:53 am

Interesting about the printing in Gothic lettering Tom, imagine that would be hard to read even in English, and please translate the title, 'Mein Mann, der Rennfahrer', for me. Those cars were fascinating and it is hard to believe that it was not until the early 1980's that an F1 engine exceeded it's power. "The engines built varied in power, attaining an output between 560 and 640 horse power (418-444 kW) at 5800 rpm. Fuel used was a custom mix of 40% methyl alcohol, 32% benzene, 24% ethyl alcohol and 4% gasoline light.[2] The engine weighed 222 kg (490 lbs) - approximately 30% of the total weight of the car," - Wikipedia

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Awesome collection of Silver Arrows.
Thank you, I was very fortunate to be able to do so.
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Re: Silberpfeil - The Silver arrows - Update 2013

Post by Tom » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:04 am

'Mein Mann, der Rennfahrer' means 'My husband, the racing driver'. I will likely display my silver arrows around that book someday.

When I was in the US in (IIRC) 1999 for the Monterey Historics, Audi had the Auto Union V16 out on the track. Seeing someone (actually a director of Audi in Germany!) drive that car on the Laguna Seca track at speed made me respect the drivers of those cars even more. The car alternated between understeer and oversteer within seconds and you had to be on the ball all the time because it would kill you if you let your attention fade even for a moment.

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Re: Silberpfeil - The Silver arrows - Update 2013

Post by stewil » Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:24 am

Tom said
When I was in the US in (IIRC) 1999 for the Monterey Historics, Audi had the Auto Union V16 out on the track. Seeing someone (actually a director of Audi in Germany!) drive that car on the Laguna Seca track at speed made me respect the drivers of those cars even more. The car alternated between understeer and oversteer within seconds and you had to be on the ball all the time because it would kill you if you let your attention fade even for a moment.
I would have loved to see and also hear that V16. Thanks for the post Tom. :D
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Re: Silberpfeil - The Silver arrows - Update 2013

Post by Featherless_Biped » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:10 pm

Steve, your fantastic display and collection makes a hard act to follow ! :shock: :)

I have just a few to show.

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I'm not sure if this 1935 Rekordwagen qualifies as a Silberpfeil. :?

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Post by LUW » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:03 am

Featherless_Biped wrote:
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I'm not sure if this 1935 Rekordwagen qualifies as a Silberpfeil. :?

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RT, yeah it's a Silberpfeil, since it was a Type A enclosed in an aerodynamic body (Lucca speed record car, with enclosed rear wheels), but I don't think it should have numbers. Is that from Brumm? I thought about getting it but wasn't so sure of the quality, but it looks pretty good from here. In my eyes what kills the models from Brumm are the far-from-great wire wheels, but the record cars with their solid or closed wheels look much better.
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Post by Tom » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:29 am

It's fine if you don't display it next to an MC.

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Post by Featherless_Biped » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:50 am

A little research today found this: http://www.revandshift.com/2016/09/12/s ... uto-union/#

"Auto Union Type B Lucca 1935

"The Type B was made as a closed roof in an attempt to break the world speed record set by a Mercedes Silver Arrow. Hans Stuck set a speed of 320 km/h at the Lucca and the Auto Union emerged victorious."

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Could the car in this picture be the same one as the model – with a different number and enclosed rear wheels? "Type B Lucca" agrees with the info on the Brumm model.

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Post by Tom » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:34 pm

320 km/h on those tyres and with no crash protection whatsoevet. Those guys were bonkers.

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Post by LUW » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:08 pm

Featherless_Biped wrote:
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RT, that was the so called "Speedlimousine", not an actual car but a special body weighing 120 kg that was put over one of the chassis to test engines, but it was too heavy for the 750 kg GP formula. Nobody knows for certain how many cars were built, but usually it's said that 5 different chassis were used for racing in 1934, including a test car and a reserve. From what I understood that body was used at least on Types A, B and C, but not for actual racing (not even for hill-climbing events). Still, it's really hard to know for sure, because AU basically morphed these cars from one type to the other.

The Lucca record car had two versions, both used on the same event:
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On the Lucca car, because of aerodynamics, the exhausts were set up as 8-4-2 on each side, and not 8-4 like on the regular GP cars. Another difference is that the front is closed and doesn't have a grill like the race cars had. So I'm thinking that Brumm pulled an AU and combined a chassis (A, B or C), a Speedlimousine body and the exhausts of the Lucca Type C.
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Re: Silberpfeil - The Silver arrows - Update 2013

Post by Featherless_Biped » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:31 am

Thanks for the background info, Luc. :)
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The Lucca record car had two versions, both used on the same event:
Brumm also makes the Lucca in the same version that is shown in the picture – with the number 3, different exhaust, and wire wheels. However, it looks like Brumm didn't get the windshield right on either model.

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