Monte Carlo.....or bust

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

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HPI 8017 Toyota Celica GT-Four (ST185) 1993 Rallye Monte Carlo Winner D. Auriol/B. Occelli

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British roads have history. Some were built by the Romans. British road investment being what it is, they have only been re-surfaced a few times since.

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British roads have history. Some were built by the Romans. British road investment being what it is, they have only been re-surfaced a few times since.

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Post by scalainj » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:51 am

Bizarre - 1984

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And my 1984 entrants - Bizarre & Trofeu

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British roads have history. Some were built by the Romans. British road investment being what it is, they have only been re-surfaced a few times since.

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

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Atlas Jaguar Collection - Jaguar E Type - 1965 Monte Carlo - Roy Pinder / Charles Pollard - DNF

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Premium X - Triumph Herald - 1960 Monte Carlo Rally - Alex Edward Cleghorn / Rodney J. Wright

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Jager » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:20 am

I came across this picture of an Australian Holden competing in the 1953 Monte Carlo rally. Biante or one of the other Australian model makers should produce this one.

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Tom » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:39 am

Huh, talk about Minichamps with their broomstick aerials. :roll:

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by CDM » Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:47 am

Tom

Brilliant, probably why the car is leaning so much.

I think I have seen decals for this car in a larger scale but not in 1:43

I think the real car still exists and entered the Monte Historique in the last few years

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

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E. Radaelli/M. Cinotto. 1982. Retired/accident.

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Post by Tom » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:26 am

That is nice. Did it come with R6 decals?

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Featherless_Biped » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:32 am

Yeah, I was late getting them on the model. :oops:

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by CDM » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:33 am

Monte Carlo or Bust the 1930s & 40s . This feature took longer than I was expecting...

All models are a mixture of diecast, diecast conversions, resin kits & white metal kits & conversions. All the kits and conversions have been made by myself some many years ago.

The Monte labels were made for various shows, so those without have not been out on show.

If you are used to seeing the modern day rally cars on the Monte Carlo rally this might be a bit of a culture shock!! ALL of these cars took part in the Monte, you entered in whatever car you had..

In the 1950s the Monte was the event to do. In 1953 346 finished and in 1954 it was 329. That’s cars that got to Monte Carlo. How many started the Monte in 2018, around 100.

Monte Carlo or Bust the 1930s few models exist of cars from the 1930s.

Ma Collection do a very nice 1939 Hotchkiss 20CV GS3 but at around £175 I am not desperate enough to need it.

I have just 3

1933 the Narischkine Fiat Balilla a diecast from Rio

1934 the Lecot Citroen Type 45 Coach a resin kit from CCCF

1938 the Vernet Simca 5 a diecast from Norev

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Monte Carlo or Bust the 1940s only one event for fairly obvious reason even less models

I have just one

1949 winner of Trevoux & Lesurque Hotchkiss 686 CGS a Partwork diecast

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The 1950s next

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by CDM » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:37 am

Monte Carlo or Bust the 1950s

There are plenty from this decade and plenty of decals to be found to convert others.

The winners

1950 winner of Becquart & Secret Hotchkiss 686 CGS a Partwork diecast in black or a resin kit by CCCF in I think the correct colour of dark maroon

1951 winner of Trevoux & Crovetto Delahaye 175 a resin kit from CCCF. A huge car that I have seen at Paris Retromobile a few years ago

1952 winner of Allard, Warburton & Lush Allard P1 a conversion on a white metal Auto Replica model. Apart from a resin kit by DM Models many years ago not covered by a modern diecast I think? DM suggested different colour but years ago I asked Tom Lush the colour and he suggested this shade of blue?

1953 winner Gatsonides & Worledge Ford Zephyr resin kit from Provence Moulage. Again a model not covered by a modern diecast, Lansdowne did one but the wheels are all wrong and it’s missing the very distinctive hood over the spotlight. The car you can see at the Heritage Museum is a replica, the real one written off against a train/tram. I was lucky/unlucky enough to drive the replica around the track at Motor 100 at Silverstone back in 1985. I had never driven a column gear change car with only 3 speeds, vacuum wipers, barely any brakes and it was raining very hard. I was slow very slow, I didn’t want to go from hero to zero in a gravel trap!!

1954 winner Chiron & Basadonna Lancia Aurelia B20 a real nice resin kit from Varkits. This model is now covered in the Partwork series

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1955 winner Malling & Fadum Sunbeam Mk3 a resin kit from Provence Moulage. The wheels are dreadful and they had forgotten the sunshine roof, it’s also a bit too wide across the front. Again a model not covered by a modern diecast, in fact this is the only model ever made of a Sunbeam Mk3

1956 winner Adams & Biggar Jaguar Mk7 a superb Oxford Diecast. Provence Moulage also made resin kit.

1957 Rally cancelled due to the Suez Crisis

1958 winner Monraisse & Feret Renualt Dauphine a diecast from IXO and also covered in a Partwork series. This car still exists owned Renault in their Heritage Collection

1959 Coltelloni & Desrosiers Citroen DS 19 a diecast from Vitesse

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That covers the 1950s Monte winners, now for some of the others.

1954 Pouchol & de Gruyter Citroen Light 15 a conversion on the Route Bleu model
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1954 Canello & Colad Simca 9 a conversion on a Partwork

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1956 Malling & Jensen-Lund Panhard Dyna 55 a conversion on the Route Bleu model

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1959 Chavy & Meignen Vespa 400 - navigators name on their base is wrong - they finished with 20 cars behind them!! a Norev

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Back Row LtoR

1954 Sigrand & Beaulieu Peugeot 203 a Solido diecast

1956 Gatsonides & Becquart Standard Vanguard a conversion on a Corgi diecast

1959 Jensen & Westphall Studebaker Golden Hawk a conversion on a Corgi diecast

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1953 Meredith-Owen & Pitts Healey Tickford from Oxford Diecast this car still exists

1956 Easton & Garnier Ace Aceca a conversion on a Dinky diecast, just waiting for Oxford to release their Aceca and I will redo these two. This car still exists and lives about 15 miles from here

1956 Clarke & Baker AC Aceca a conversion on a Dinky diecast, just waiting for Oxford to release their Aceca and I will redo this one. This car still exists. It used to be owned by Tim Dyke of MPH Models now owned by Alistair Caldwell (he of McLaren F1 fame)

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1954 Stoddart & Stoddart Standard Vanguard Phase 2. This is Peregrine Model ltd edition based on a Kenna white metal model.

1953 Couper, Fillingham & Tabor Bentley Mk 7 a resin kit from Tron. Mike Couper famous for taking Rolls Royce, Bentley or Armstrong Siddeleys on the Monte.

1952 Dargue & Hasendonck Riley RM 2½ a superb handbuilt w/metal from Crossway Models

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Back Row LtoR

Opps the Healey Tickford again

1953 Meredith-Owen & Pitts Healey Tickford from Oxford Diecast

1955 Gillard & Dugat Panhard Dyna Z a conversion on a Partwork

Front Row LtoR

1956 Sarayac & Buchet Salmson 2300S a conversion on a Partwork

1956 Mitchell & Reece MG Magnette ZB a conversion on a Partwork

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Back Row LtoR

1953 Monte Moss, Scannell & Cooper Sunbeam Talbot Mk2A a conversion on a Somerville white metal kit. Started years ago I still need to add the spotlights and the roof rack.

1956 Harper, Humphrey & Elbra Sunbeam Mk3 a conversion on a Provence Moulage kit with Somerville wheels, sunshine roof added.

Front Row LtoR

1952 Moss, Scannell & Cooper Sunbeam Talbot Mk2A an Oxford Diecast. The car does not have wing mirrors on the wings they should be on the doors, but nice touch with the window heaters

1952 Moss, Scannell & Cooper Sunbeam Talbot Mk2A a conversion on a Somerville white metal kit. On the Monte so that the timekeepers could distinguish competitors from ordinary cars, some cars elected to have their front wings white washed.

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Phew more than I had thought

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Tom » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:55 am

Wow, very impressive! Quite a few that I'd like to have...
For the Aceca, there's a PW that might do the trick.

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by LUW » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:28 am

One of the terrific things about these vintage racers is that it's really easy to transform a passenger car in the race version.
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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by CDM » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:16 pm

Tom

What do you think?

I reckon that an Oxford Diecast will be a better shape and have better wheels?

Hopefully it will be right hand drive too to save a bit of time remaking the dashboard!!

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Tom » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:20 pm

Oxford's a bit of a mixed bag, but their shapes are generally correct. This is better than the picture suggests BTW. Wheels will look better with a blackwash.

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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Alfaholic » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:37 am

Chris, that is a wonderful selection, thanks so much for showing these groups. As you note, you tend to think of modern Montes (1970s onwards) and forget the history and variety of vehicles. The Delahaye and Salmaon stand out for me, but there is a lot to like in your collection.
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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:31 pm

Ixo Altaya Ford Anglia - 1963 Monte Carlo rally - Jean Vinatier / Roger Masson


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Post by Alfaholic » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:43 pm

One word - Nice!
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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:27 pm

Ixo Altaya Fiat Ritmo Abarth - 1979 Monte Carlo Rally - A.Bettega / M.Perrisinot


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Re: Monte Carlo.....or bust

Post by Alfaholic » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:04 am

Gary, I can understand you having a brain-snap and adding an Alfa Romeo or a Ferrari, but you do realise this one is a Fiat? Time to turn the medication up again. :D
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