1950-55 Le Mans Pits

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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by oldirish33 » Mon May 13, 2019 11:40 pm

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Great idea, looks natural and irregular. Like it a lot.
Thanks Tom! I think it worked out reasonably well. The other aspect that I think turned out is the more subdued lighting. I still may tweak it some, but its getting the 'glow' I envisioned.

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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Tom » Tue May 14, 2019 12:33 am

That is much better!

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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Jager » Tue May 14, 2019 1:58 am

That looks really good....except the driver of car #17 is totally confused and facing the wrong way :D .
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by LM24HRS » Wed May 15, 2019 1:27 pm

I've always wondered how best to incorporate lights into a pits scene. Initially I was thinking of using the yellow grain of wheat lights used in railway modelling.
Enjoying the build Jerry. Very good indeed
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by oldirish33 » Wed May 15, 2019 3:45 pm

LM24HRS wrote:
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I've always wondered how best to incorporate lights into a pits scene. Initially I was thinking of using the yellow grain of wheat lights used in railway modelling.
Enjoying the build Jerry. Very good indeed
Paul, I think ultimately that would be best. Not only because the lights were smaller, but you could customize your light display only to the number and position you wanted/needed them. I bought these lights fairly cheap on Amazon and since I don't have the equipment needed for a RR lighting system, they seemed like a good option to experiment with. Thanks for your interest and compliment!
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That looks really good....except the driver of car #17 is totally confused and facing the wrong way :D .
Thanks Ian! I think he may have been blinded by the bright lights! :D
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by RaceOddity » Sat May 18, 2019 1:30 pm

oldirish33 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 3:45 pm

Thanks Ian! I think he may have been blinded by the bright lights! :D
Wow, blinded by the light.... there might be a song there somewhere..... :lol:

That is a prodigious job so far Jerry. I am liking that a lot. The pits remind me a lot
of the 60's era pits you see in the movie LeMans. I thought they looked a bit dingy, and
they probably were a little.

I enjoy poking about here and there, backstage so to speak
when I get to the races. Occasionally get escorted out, but so far nothing worse. ;)
From time to time you even get a bit of info. I think the older tracks have the advantage
of character that some of the new courses need time to develop.

This will show gobs of the same.
looking forward to the next installment.

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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by oldirish33 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:07 pm

RaceOddity wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 1:30 pm
oldirish33 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 3:45 pm

Thanks Ian! I think he may have been blinded by the bright lights! :D
Wow, blinded by the light.... there might be a song there somewhere..... :lol:

That is a prodigious job so far Jerry. I am liking that a lot. The pits remind me a lot
of the 60's era pits you see in the movie LeMans. I thought they looked a bit dingy, and
they probably were a little.

I enjoy poking about here and there, backstage so to speak
when I get to the races. Occasionally get escorted out, but so far nothing worse. ;)
From time to time you even get a bit of info. I think the older tracks have the advantage
of character that some of the new courses need time to develop.

This will show gobs of the same.
looking forward to the next installment.

Scott
Glad you are enjoying it Scott and unfortunately the pits in that era were often dingy places. There wasn't the insane amounts of money in the sport then and many famous tracks in that era struggled to stay open and had very little money for upgrades and maintenance. According to a Healey crew member in the late 60's, one of the first jobs when they got to Le Mans was sweeping out leaves and debris from the pit boxes.

Not much progress as I have been on other projects, but today while watching a taped replay of the Monaco GP and the Indy 500, I made the fuel bowsers for the Le Mans pits. I wish I was better at soldering and have a tendency to put globs on when only a dab will do.

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Using brass wire, I cut appropriate lengths. Using my wire bender, I made the main piece, with support bracing, then soldered the pieces together.

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The finished bowsers waiting some finishing with jeweler's files and emory paper before painting. Next step will be attaching the fuel 'hoses' to the bowsers and mounting them on the diorama.
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Post by oldirish33 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:33 pm

Wow, its been almost a month since I last posted. There has been some but not much progress since then. As the year turns to summer here there are too many other distractions, so inside projects seem to languish. At least until the fish stop biting! :) What I have done, is to finish the fueling bowsers and mount them and the fuel hoses along the pit wall. I drilled small holes in the base for the fuel bowsers to sit in and be able to pivot as desired. I am going to fit a small brass tube about 1/4" long into each hole to give the rig extra stability. I have a refueler figure that I need to finish painting and the hose needs to be cut to length and the fuel nozzles put on. We are due for a bit of rain later this week, so maybe I will get motivated to do some more work on the diorama.

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I don't know about anyone else, but I find that with projects like this they proceed at a pace and then sometimes can languish for a bit. Maybe because I have the attention span of a squirrel, other distractions pull me away as much as the desire to work on something else for awhile. One such new project came about that devoted my primary attention. The contractor working on my new garage apparently liked some of the diorama work I have done and mentioned it to his wife. She contacted me about making something for him for his birthday. So, while primarily watching hours of the Le Mans race I recorded, I worked on this project:

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Knowing his automotive interests, I am putting a trio of Ford GT's on the base. Modern and the 1966 and 1967 winners at Le Mans. I also decided that I would make a second one for myself which is pictured above and will be used as a backdrop for future collection photos.
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Tom » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:43 pm

Both your ongoing project and the new job look fab.

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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by LUW » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:43 pm

Very nice, both of them. And now the stairs look MUCH better in your original one.
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Post by oldirish33 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:06 am

I thought I should post something, even if its just one picture and I haven't done a great deal more since my last post. I have finished the fuel hoses and refueling rigs, along with a refueler figure ready to top off the tank of the next car into the pits. I need to start "populating the pit boxes and counters with tools, tool boxes, tires, etc., as well as start making advertising banners to be hung in the pits. Its about 85-90% done, just need to make the final push to complete it. Stay tuned!

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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Tom » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:23 am

Looks fantastic Jerry, I don't know how you did the weathering but that really makes the build for me. It just looks great!

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Post by frenchy » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:43 am

Although I'm not into diaramas myself I take my hat off to you that have the skill and patience to take on these self inflicted projects!!
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Post by oldirish33 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:08 pm

We'll Call it Good...for now: Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement during this project. It took a bit longer than I originally anticipated, but I am now at a point where I consider the diorama finished. Although as I say that, I know that over time I will fiddle with it more, make some further additions and modifications. I have a hard time leaving well enough alone... :D

The first thing I will likely change is the signs/banners. In the early 50's advertising banners hung on the pit wall and by 1954, on the berm/wood fence opposite the pits. For now I decided not to put a banner on the fence, but did hang banners on the pit wall. Photos I have studied show a mixture of banners (probably canvas) and wood sign boards. I wanted to try and replicate a canvas banner so, I have done some experimenting.

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Using a white plastic bag, I cut out a section and applied the decals for the banners to the plastic. I then put liquid decal film on the decals to give some additional rigidity. Even though the plastic was white, it was too opaque, so I painted the back of the plastic with flat white spray paint. Again, this seemed to give it more rigidity. The wrinkles in the plastic I think give the banner a more natural look, but it was hard to keep the corners from wanting to curl up against themselves. I think they turned out alright, but I think in time I will make sign boards out of clear hard plastic sheet and paint it white, cutting out the decal to size.

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To give the banners added realism, I decided to attach thread representing rope or cord to hang the banners with. I attached with super glue and learned that putting it directly on the banner caused the banner to dissolve slightly. Dipping the ends of the thread in glue and setting on the back of the banner seemed to work best. Doing this again, I would probably substitute white household glue, but I was in a hurry (something that usually doesn't bode well for one of these projects.)

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These are the banners "hung" on the fencing. As I said, its okay for now, but I am not entirely happy with them. As you can see, I also have placed objects in the pit stalls representative of items that could be found in a working pit. I will likely add some more to the pits and pit wall in time. Here are some closer shots:

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Here's what the pit scene looks like with the lights off:

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And, with the lights on:

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Some night action:

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A late night pit stop during Le Mans 1950:

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Not correct cars I know, but the Aston was only one I had handy with a driver in it. The race surface and pits were extremely narrow until 1956, part of what made racing and working in the pits at Le Mans so dangerous.

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I hope you have enjoyed this build process. My next big project is to complete my diorama from Le Mans 1970, by building the pit area. I wont start on any more until my new shop/garage is finished and I have a proper place to work on it. First however, I have this itch to do Sebring from 1955...
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by LUW » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:47 pm

Superb to say the least!!!
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Tom » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:16 pm

That is fantastic! My suggestion would be tyre marks, as pulling out of the pit would be bound to leave some rubber as would racing by. All tracks I've visited had a generous coating of rubber.

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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Alfaholic » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:58 am

Printing decals on a plastic bag :shock: This is why I will admire from afar and never try to do something similar :D

Amazing work. 8-)
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by LM24HRS » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:49 am

Very authentic Jerry. Love the input for the sheet banners.
You have made an excellent job of this. I like it.
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Jager » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:11 am

Excellent job Jerry. I really like all the detail you've put into the interior of the pit boxes. Very inspiring.
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Post by oldirish33 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:17 pm

Jager wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:11 am
Excellent job Jerry. I really like all the detail you've put into the interior of the pit boxes. Very inspiring.
Thanks Ian! Mostly stuff I have picked up over time. O gauge railroad.
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Very authentic Jerry. Love the input for the sheet banners.
You have made an excellent job of this. I like it.
Thanks Bruno! I like to try things for the challenge of it. I consider my modeling skills average so I am hoping others will give making dioramas a go.
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Printing decals on a plastic bag :shock: This is why I will admire from afar and never try to do something similar :D

Amazing work. 8-)
Thanks Martin! I didnt actually print on the bags, just applied decals i made to the bag. Since plastic bags have been banned in most places here, getting them was a challenge.
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That is fantastic! My suggestion would be tyre marks, as pulling out of the pit would be bound to leave some rubber as would racing by. All tracks I've visited had a generous coating of rubber.
Thanks Tom! I thought about that. While some cars could lay rubber in the early 50' s most couldn't and/or it was very hard on spoked wheels and hubs. For that reason I opted not to.
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Superb to say the least!!!
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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Alex_W » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 pm

Outstanding and inspirational!

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Re: 1950-55 Le Mans Pits

Post by Jean B. » Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:04 am

Having just found this topic, I'm simply dazzled! :shock: What a work, and what a result! I'm fascinated how realistic such a diorama could turn out, and I love those ideas of "how-to-do", especially the banners with the decals, great idea and stunning effect! Congratulations :P !

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Post by JSB33 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:29 am

Fantastic, especially the after dark shots.
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Post by oldirish33 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:19 pm

JSB33 wrote:
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Fantastic, especially the after dark shots.
Thanks Jeff! I was pleased how the lights turned out. I have a large period 'neon' sign I am going to put on top of the pit building. I will post a picture soon of the complete package.
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Having just found this topic, I'm simply dazzled! :shock: What a work, and what a result! I'm fascinated how realistic such a diorama could turn out, and I love those ideas of "how-to-do", especially the banners with the decals, great idea and stunning effect! Congratulations :P !
Thanks Jean! Given your modeling skills I take that as a very high compliment. I need to finish my 1970's Le Mans pits, then I will have made one from each era 1950's through 1980's. The next project I will chronicle here.
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Outstanding and inspirational!
Thanks Alex, look forward to seeing your next project!
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