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Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:39 am
by Jager
Thanks for the correction Gary. The model was limited to only 500 pieces and I assumed it was another creative Minichamps special.

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:09 am
by Paulius43
protzenegger wrote:
The mirrors are also in the wrong place - should be on the door, rather than the front fenders.
Spark has probably modelled this car according to the "homologation" version of the car?
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There are pictures on both mirror placements, on the wings and on the doors, as well as wingless car and with rear wing placed...

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:15 pm
by protzenegger
That's a cool find, thanks for sharing. On that note, the homologation version shouldn't have the sliding window cutouts then as on the Spark :P Looks like it's got a green sunstrip as well - which makes this the car Chrono tackled in 1:18, although their wheels, color and entire front end were quite off as well.

I remember the wingless car, it's the one they used for classic NFS in-game footage. I think I might prefer it with a wing though.

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:34 pm
by Makalu
Disappointed by the roof of the 2016 Le Mans winner.

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God knows why Spark have made the front black aerial that massive, the pitot tube looks like it's just seen a shooting star and the aerial behind that should be half the size. I've managed to rectify the latter two issues, but I may have manhandled the front one whilst trying to fix it and I may have lost said piece of tiny, very hard to find plastic :D . I think I may stop buying brand new models upon release, I seem to break something 100% of the time lol.

Other than that, she's a beauty.

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Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:43 pm
by Tom
A paintbrush hair will do just fine as a replacement.

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:48 pm
by Makalu
Tom wrote:A paintbrush hair will do just fine as a replacement.
Tom you're a hero. That works absolutely perfectly.

Ok it's probably not as small as it could be but I'm really happy with how it looks once again. :D

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Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:13 am
by 911RSR
To be honest, from the photo's it is difficult to spot the difference between the two shots you posted, other than the length? Here is another close up of the antenna arrangement.
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So they would only require a bit of trimming I would say? Not sure how pitot tubes react on shooting stars, but the horizontal part may need to be trimmed down a little as well, so nothing too difficult with a sharp cutter?

Other than that it is indeed a very good looking model. Spark even placed the twitter handle inside the cockpit, so lots of details to enjoy.

The 919 was accompanied by the two Manthey Porsches from last years N24, and although they paid attention to the different placement of numbers on the doors, they couldn't be bothered to put Kevin Estre on the car...
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Pic from Cartima, as I have not taken any pics of the car myself, but mine looks like this as well.

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 9:22 am
by Jager
Sometimes that comes down to individual drivers and licensing issues. Spark haven't been able to put Darren Turner's name on any of his Aston Martins and as a result have to supply the drivers names as separate decals for the collector to apply.

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 9:51 am
by 911RSR
Interesting thought, never heard that before. Do you have a clue which rules would apply here? Because there are many other cars from Spark with his name on the car. This includes Porsches from 2016, but also cars from other N24 events, so I still think it is a mistake. I also tried to contact them to ask for a decal (which would be a pity, because the livery is very well done with pad printing), but no response yet.

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:01 am
by Jager
Here's one of Andy's pictures showing the Spark Aston Martin's with the drivers names supplied separately from the 2013 Le Mans 24 Hours (Roald Goethe, Jamie Campbell-Walter & Stuart Hall) :

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Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:24 am
by Makalu
911RSR wrote:To be honest, from the photo's it is difficult to spot the difference between the two shots you posted, other than the length? Here is another close up of the antenna arrangement.

So they would only require a bit of trimming I would say? Not sure how pitot tubes react on shooting stars, but the horizontal part may need to be trimmed down a little as well, so nothing to difficult with a sharp cutter?

Other than that it is indeed a very good looking model. Spark even placed the twitter handle inside the cockpit, so lots of details to enjoy.
Yeah the way I received it, the first picture, was with the two antennas either side of the pitot tube both completely disproportionate to how they were on the real car, and how they were displayed in 99% of the pics that either Spark released or shops posted. From that I can guess this was a one off and the majority of other people shouldn't have this issue.

The pitot itself wasn't the nice L shape it should be, because the horizontal part was pointing skyward, so I had to take that off and try and bend it into shape.

Noticed the Twitter decal, thats' a really nice touch on Spark's part.

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:15 pm
by 911RSR
Aha. Mine looks like this as well:
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So the antennas are definitely too long as you pointed out, but I think the thickness is okay as the 1:1 antennas are a bit stubby. I think the most forward antenna be placed right behind the pitot tube and there should be a very small one at the front, so maybe even shorter than what you made. But to be honest I will not attempt to fix it on my model...

@Ian, do you have any clue why? Does Spark need to license every diver? Or can a driver protect his name as a trademark?

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:41 pm
by Makalu
911RSR wrote:Aha.
So the antennas are definitely too long as you pointed out, but I think the thickness is okay as the 1:1 antennas are a bit stubby. I think the most forward antenna be placed right behind the pitot tube and there should be a very small one at the front, so maybe even shorter than what you made. But to be honest I will not attempt to fix it on my model...
Yeah the thickness is fine, just the size which makes no sense considering Spark's accuracy in other areas.

Had to fix it after you'd mentioned, if a job's worth doing and all that.. Does look a lot better now that I've sorted it. I don't blame you, I only did it because I've had too much practice now repairing brand new Spark models due to clumsiness :lol:

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Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:43 am
by 911RSR
Makalu wrote:I only did it because I've had too much practice now repairing brand new Spark models due to clumsiness :lol:
Haha, that's what I try to avoid :) Although the outcome does look good!

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 5:43 am
by Jager
911RSR wrote:@Ian, do you have any clue why? Does Spark need to license every diver? Or can a driver protect his name as a trademark?
I don't know exactly. I think most drivers just think its cool to have a model of the car they drove, but some are more particular. Here in Australia, we've had model makers like Biante signing "Exclusive" arrangements with drivers like Jack Brabham, Peter Brock, Allan Moffat and Dick Johnson to release collections of the cars they drove. reportedly in return for a share of the proceeds. However, this hasn't stopped other brands from releasing models of their cars, though Moffat refuses to autograph models released without his approval.

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:34 pm
by oldirish33
I did a search and didn't see this mentioned elsewhere. It is a minor error in the overall scope of things, but something I am curious about. Spark modeled one of two Austin Healey 100 Coupes built in 1953. These cars served as development hacks and were test beds for brake, transmission and engine development. The one pictured here was Donald Healey's personal car for a number of years and was upgraded to 100S specification along the way. It sold at auction three years ago for $843,000 US. Originally the car had a black top, which it retained all during Healey ownership. It was repainted all red in about 1972.

Spark has done a great job in getting the shape correct and have even made sure that the dash which is not the same as a production Austin Healey was rendered correctly. What is mystifying to me, is with the amount of detail they got correct, how they got the number plate wrong. This car has been ONX 113 since 1953 (still registered under that number today), yet on the model it is CD 27. In the Healey world, the most famous cars are known by their plate numbers and that is what they are called; including this coupe. Even Bonhams refers to it this way in their auction website. So, what may seem minor is really a pretty big miss on their part. Wonder if they need help with research? :D

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Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:26 pm
by Galaxy Gaz
Are there 2 models of that car Jerry.....this pic of the Spark has the ONX reg

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Its possible at sometime in the cars history that it had a private number plate put on it , hence the CD27 reg...who knows

Re: Spark/Bizarre Miscues

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:54 pm
by oldirish33
Galaxy Gaz wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:26 pm
Are there 2 models of that car Jerry.....this pic of the Spark has the ONX reg

Its possible at sometime in the cars history that it had a private number plate put on it , hence the CD27 reg...who knows
Gary, both of the ones I have have the same number plate. I also intend to do a model of the second coupe OAC 1. Interesting that the Spark photo has the correct one. The car has never had another number plate, that fact I am certain. Now it has me more curious if they did produce different versions.