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It looks more like plastic or resin than diecast.

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Tom wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:51 pm
It looks more like plastic or resin than diecast.
Hmm, I thought just the opposite. Look at the thick threaded center mount.

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To me it looks like a Spark. Just look at how rough the inside of the rear wheel arch is. That definitely looks more resin than diecast. The two hole arrangement on the base also looks like Spark - one hole for the screw and a second hole for a locating pin on a small plastic insert. Unfortunately I'm away from my collection until Friday so can't check my own version of this car.
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Jager wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 6:28 pm
To me it looks like a Spark. Just look at how rough the inside of the rear wheel arch is. That definitely looks more resin than diecast. The two hole arrangement on the base also looks like Spark - one hole for the screw and a second hole for a locating pin on a small plastic insert. Unfortunately I'm away from my collection until Friday so can't check my own version of this car.
I dunno, those look like tapped parallel threads to me. As far as I know, no one taps threads into resin and then paints the threads silver. All of the resin models I've seen are mounted with tapered screws.

And Stewart has it in hand and he says it's metal so you gotta give that some weight. :D

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The last car on the top row

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Alex_W wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 5:57 pm
Tom wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:51 pm
It looks more like plastic or resin than diecast.
Hmm, I thought just the opposite. Look at the thick threaded center mount.
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This is an Ixo Audi R15
QED the GR8 is an Ixo. Sorry for the confusion?
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Stewart Frazer wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 5:11 am
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This is an Ixo Audi R15
QED the GR8 is an Ixo. Sorry for the confusion?
Interesting.

It must be an older IXO or Altaya version. The graphics and headlights are different on the current IXO and the NACA ducts are opened up.

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Don the triangular heads on the screws at either end not mark it out as an IXO/Altaya?
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Alfaholic wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 6:56 pm
Don the triangular heads on the screws at either end not mark it out as an IXO/Altaya?
I think you are correct.

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I agree, triangular screws = IXO/Altaya and i would lean heavily towards Altaya

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Alex_W wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 10:47 pm
Alfaholic wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 6:56 pm
Don the triangular heads on the screws at either end not mark it out as an IXO/Altaya?
I think you are correct.
reeft1 wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 7:23 am
I agree, triangular screws = IXO/Altaya and i would lean heavily towards Altaya
Guy's, you're getting confused. Stewart has shown the base of two different models for comparison:

The Mirage GR8 (note - standard screws):

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and an IXO Audi R15 (with the triangular screws):

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So, the Mirage may not be an Altaya on the basis it does NOT have triangular screws.
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And given the finish underneath, the topmost car looks more like resin than diecast.

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Both are diecast. I’m going to have to climb into the loft and bring down Laithwaites box #20 which is where I think the box for the Mirage finished up.
Meanwhile any clues on the last car on the top shelf?
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Jager wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 9:20 am
Alex_W wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 10:47 pm
Alfaholic wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 6:56 pm
Don the triangular heads on the screws at either end not mark it out as an IXO/Altaya?
I think you are correct.
reeft1 wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 7:23 am
I agree, triangular screws = IXO/Altaya and i would lean heavily towards Altaya
Guy's, you're getting confused. Stewart has shown the base of two different models for comparison:

The Mirage GR8 (note - standard screws):

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and an IXO Audi R15 (with the triangular screws):

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So, the Mirage may not be an Altaya on the basis it does NOT have triangular screws.
Not all Ixo have triangular screws- definitely looks like a partswork base

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On to the second shelf. An easy one first.
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Not so easy next

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#30 is a Ferrari 333sp and it might've been the winning car driven by Giampiero Moretti of Momo fame in the '94 IMSA GT race at Lime Rock Park.

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Tom wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 12:02 pm
#30 is a Ferrari 333sp and it might've been the winning car driven by Giampiero Moretti of Momo fame in the '94 IMSA GT race at Lime Rock Park.
Right car wrong driver. It’s about countries in alphabetical order. Possibly wrong event.
Model maker?
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Ferrari 333SP - Elisio Salazar (Moretti's co-driver) - Chile
1st place 1994 Lime Rock IMSA
Minichamps?

Tom gets most of the credit. He had everything but the driver.
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Stewart Frazer wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 1:30 pm
Both are diecast. I’m going to have to climb into the loft and bring down Laithwaites box #20 which is where I think the box for the Mirage finished up.
Meanwhile any clues on the last car on the top shelf?
It must be Brazil so it has to be Senna.
It's a Porsche 956 and I think he only drove one once, so it's got to be the 1994 1000K at the Nurburgring. I don't know where he finished.
I'll guess Minichamps

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Alex_W wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:45 pm
Ferrari 333SP - Elisio Salazar (Moretti's co-driver) - Chile
1st place 1994 Lime Rock IMSA
Minichamps?

Tom gets most of the credit. He had everything but the driver.
Spot on you two. My spreadsheet says Watkins Glen but I don’t know why, MINICHAMPS rarely give a specific race and I believe the car was #30 all season
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Alex_W wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 3:02 pm
Stewart Frazer wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 1:30 pm
Both are diecast. I’m going to have to climb into the loft and bring down Laithwaites box #20 which is where I think the box for the Mirage finished up.
Meanwhile any clues on the last car on the top shelf?
It must be Brazil so it has to be Senna.
It's a Porsche 956 and I think he only drove one once, so it's got to be the 1994 1000K at the Nurburgring. I don't know where he finished.
I'll guess Minichamps
He finished 8th with Johansenn and Pescarolo. Lang/Minichamps Ed43 #17. Well worked out.
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Stewart Frazer wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 5:31 pm
Alex_W wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 2:45 pm
Ferrari 333SP - Elisio Salazar (Moretti's co-driver) - Chile
1st place 1994 Lime Rock IMSA
Minichamps?

Tom gets most of the credit. He had everything but the driver.
Spot on you two. My spreadsheet says Watkins Glen but I don’t know why, MINICHAMPS rarely give a specific race and I believe the car was #30 all season
To be fair, I only knew Salazar because of excellent runs at the Indy 500. Let me see if I can find photo of the car at Lime Rock and the Glen.

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It looks closest to the Lime Rock car. Tom knows his stuff.

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This is the Glen car:

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We seemed to have skipped the #27 car.....

Country: Canada
Driver: Gilles Villeneuve
Year: 1982
Car: Ferrari 126C2
Race: Belgian GP (this is the only version I can find with silver rear end plates - most other version have red end plates) ?
Model: Brumm
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