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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:55 pm

Rally car transporter not a race car ....looks totally wrong.

Needs targa florio rsrs on it
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Serafa » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:32 pm

Jager wrote:
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The Premium Classixxs Martini truck and trailer set might not be 100% real, but gee it looks good loaded up with a set of 917's :

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I like that a lot!

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:08 am

LUW wrote:
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Maybe just the photo, but that looks toyish.
Probably in part because the 917's are from Brumm (I think). If you had a couple of Spark's instead it would probably look more realistic.
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Rally car transporter not a race car ....looks totally wrong.

Needs targa florio rsrs on it
"If" Matini Racing actually had one of these I'm sure it would have been used for both sportscars and rally cars. Nevertheless, I agree it would look cool with a couple of Martini 911 RSR's on it.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Serafa » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:02 pm

This Fiat 238 made by Rio with a Ch. Pozzi theme caught my attention this week, but... is it real?

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Also found this:

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:44 am

Bruno, my feeling is the Rio model is 'inspired' by the picture you've shown, but is not an exact replica.

Here's a rear view which highlights a few difference :

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1. Rear windows are missing
2. Ferrari logo and script above the windows is missing
3. Prancing Horse on the sides between the stripes is missing
4. Ch Pozzi logo on blue background rather than red
5. Michelin logo is on yellow background rather than red
6. Number plate (4950 ZZ75) does not match the original (3567 GK92)

In addition, I think the Rio model is based on an early series (1960's) 238 van, whereas the actual van was a later series (1970's) 238.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Serafa » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:15 am

Perhaps Ch. Pozzi team had another Fiat 238 earlier back in the 60's, but I really don't know if Ch. Pozzi team was in fact active at that time. I know they were active later in the 80's, besides the 70's when they were racing in Le Mans with Ferrari 365's. Also don't have any pictures from the 60's (if Ch. Pozzi was actually racing at the time).

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:39 am

Bruno, from my records, Charles Pozzi's team made its debut at Le Mans in 1972 with a Ferrari 365 (ignoring the Delahaye he drove in 1949). Chassis #15667 did not appear before Le Mans.

The 238 van carries the sponsorship of"Thompson". This suggests its linked to their 1973 Le Mans entries (two Ferrari 365's), or their 1978 entries (two Ferrari 512 BB LM).
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Serafa » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:15 pm

Jager wrote:
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Bruno, from my records, Charles Pozzi's team made its debut at Le Mans in 1972 with a Ferrari 365 (ignoring the Delahaye he drove in 1949). Chassis #15667 did not appear before Le Mans.

The 238 van carries the sponsorship of"Thompson". This suggests its linked to their 1973 Le Mans entries (two Ferrari 365's), or their 1978 entries (two Ferrari 512 BB LM).
I think you have now killed it. Just found out on the specs that it's the reproduction of the 1978 version.

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LUW » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:13 am

Has anyone seen this before?
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Available locally, the guy is asking only US$ 328,00 on it.
Martin? It has "Alfa Romeo" written on the door.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:23 am

Grab it quick Luc. These Carlo Brianza transporters are rare and very costly. Here's the same transporter that sold on eBay in January for almost US$ 900 !

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Carlo-Brian ... SwD0lUf3-O

Here it is in 1929 when Scuderia Ferrari was running the Alfa Romeo works team :

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:43 am

Jager wrote:
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Grab it quick Luc. These Carlo Brianza transporters are rare and very costly. Here's the same transporter that sold on eBay in January for almost US$ 900 !

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Carlo-Brian ... SwD0lUf3-O

It never sold .

Infact it has been relisted 11 times since that auction , first at almost $1400 , then again at $1200 and is currently for sale at an increased price of $1995 :o
The seller is obviously a chancer .
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LUW » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:46 am

Cool (really cool, if I'm honest), but not for me.
Oh, and that's with shipping.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:35 am

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It never sold .

Infact it has been relisted 11 times since that auction , first at almost $1400 , then again at $1200 and is currently for sale at an increased price of $1995 :o
The seller is obviously a chancer .
Thanks Gary. When I look at 'Completed listings', the $897 sale is in green indicating it was an actual sale, whereas all the others past sales are in black indicating there was no sale. Likewise, when I search 'Sold listings, I only get the US$ 897 sale. Maybe it was a shill bid.

Not withstanding the dodgy seller above, these are expensive models. Here's a similar ABC Brianza model for Euro 610 in Germany :

http://www.fpm-modelcars.de/epages/6255 ... %200043%22
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Alfaholic » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:24 am

You had me very excited there for a moment Luc - and then Gary and Ian crushed my mood with their information on the expected costs. :shock: :cry:
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by LUW » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:06 pm

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You had me very excited there for a moment Luc - and then Gary and Ian crushed my mood with their information on the expected costs. :shock: :cry:
Martin the one I'm talking about is $387 (BIN price), here in BR.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:21 pm

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You had me very excited there for a moment Luc - and then Gary and Ian crushed my mood with their information on the expected costs. :shock: :cry:
Maybe we can go halves Martin, then we alternate the ownership every 6 months 😀.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by oldirish33 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:05 pm

I am always on the lookout for items that can be used in dioramas, especially transporters. So when I saw this Altaya Unic MZ36 on ebay at a very reasonable price recently, I thought it had real possibilities as an Alfa Romeo transporter. I know Alfa used Alfa trucks but its reasonably close. I figure with some plastic card, a bit of paint and decals I can have a transporter for my mid-60's Alfas at a reasonable cost. My inspiration comes from the transporter models which are outside my price range even if available.

The Altaya UnicTractor and trailer from 1960
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Some plastic card can be used to box in the front of the trailer I think.
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What I'd really like, but cant justify the cost is this one. The tractor on this Alfa truck has a grille similar to that on the Altaya model.
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It make take me awhile to get around to it, but for now it will work to hold some Alfas until it can be modified.
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by DeadCanDanceR » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:26 pm

They look awesome! ;)
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Post by Alfaholic » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:33 pm

Yes, the "Servizio" transporter is is my ultimate wishlist item - but cost and availability may just keep it on that list!
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:59 pm

Jerry, if you search "Unic" on the forum you'll see this transporter has been a very popular item.

In my case, I display it loaded with my set of 1966 GT40's.

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While I know this is not technically correct (most of the GT40's were trailered to Le Mans behind Ford Transit vans), Ford did use Walon transport to move some of their Cobras and GT40s between races around Europe :

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by GarageOnAWall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:10 pm

Jager wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:59 pm
Jerry, if you search "Unic" on the forum you'll see this transporter has been a very popular item.

In my case, I display it loaded with my set of 1966 GT40's.



While I know this is not technically correct (most of the GT40's were trailered to Le Mans behind Ford Transit vans), Ford did use Walon transport to move some of their Cobras and GT40s between races around Europe :
That looks magnificent Ian! Was curious what type of display case? A Billy maybe? I know you have or had Detolfs, which these obviously are not. A certain Jeff is also going to like that pic :)
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by oldirish33 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:54 pm

Jager wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:59 pm
I know this is not technically correct (most of the GT40's were trailered to Le Mans behind Ford Transit vans), Ford did use Walon transport to move some of their Cobras and GT40s between races around Europe :
Hmmm.... may have to go the Ford route. I have never seen that picture. Thanks for the input!
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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Jager » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:46 am

GarageOnAWall wrote:
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That looks magnificent Ian! Was curious what type of display case? A Billy maybe? I know you have or had Detolfs, which these obviously are not. A certain Jeff is also going to like that pic :)
Brookes, I had 4 Detolf's in Dubai, but I left them there when I left. Now that I'm home, I have 4 Billy cabinets joined together. This effectively gives me half a shelf for 8 cars (or 4 - 5 cars and a transporter) from each race year of Le Mans.
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Hmmm.... may have to go the Ford route. I have never seen that picture. Thanks for the input!
The good thing about the Unic transporter is its not that expensive, so there's nothing stopping you from using one for the Fords and another for the Alfas.

Here's another pick of the Ford transporter from the same event :

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I have several pictures of the Autodelta Alfa Transporter(s). In addition to the yellow and blue version, there was also this red and blue version (judging by the 33.2's its carrying I'm guessing 1967 or 1968 ?) :

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While the red version has a number of features in common with the yellow version, there appears to also be some areas of difference.
Here's the yellow version at Le Mans in 1972 :

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Re: REAL race transporters available in 1:43

Post by Galaxy Gaz » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:12 am

Jager wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:59 pm
Jerry, if you search "Unic" on the forum you'll see this transporter has been a very popular item.

In my case, I display it loaded with my set of 1966 GT40's.

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While I know this is not technically correct (most of the GT40's were trailered to Le Mans behind Ford Transit vans), Ford did use Walon transport to move some of their Cobras and GT40s between races around Europe :

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Considering you usually point out the slightest inaccuracy in a model , I am very suprised to see something in your line up as totally inaccurate as the Unic is .
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